The big 3 just don't get it, nobody wants American cars.

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

40$ per hour is 80k per year...

If they made $40 an hour.

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

shit im in the wrong business.

they make a LOT of money

 

[eggyhustles 10+ year member]

Let's redo this:
x5/ML = way too many reliability issues

Cayenne = ranked the worst reliable vehicle ever produced

RR = Navigator

Escalade = pretty good value

MKZ and 300s are not in the same class as the E/5/A6/M/GS

Z is nice, but at the bottom end of jap engineering.

Challenger is better that the previous 3 you listed. After you drive one, get back to me.

how is the 300 not in the same class as the gs? or 5series?

 

[sexiewasd 10+ year member]

No I think your missing the point, well not really but a good part of it anyway.

I live in a town with a huge number of foreign cars but 80% of the cars I repair at work are GM products, and the things I fix are things that should not be having problems. I replace a huge number of brake lines do to them being rusted. it's great that we get the work, but my Camry has 195+K on it and still has the original lines because of a great thing called plastic coating.

Replacing a fuel pump in a cavalier is a 3 hour ordeal where you have to drop the tank down then replace the lines that crack due to excessive rust. In a Camry you pop out the bottom of the rear seat unplug a molex connector, remove 5 screws, marvel at nylon fuel lines, replace the pump then slack off for an hour.

Edit: wow this forum moves fast, gotta remember to quote.

 

[eggyhustles 10+ year member]

shit im in the wrong business.
they make a LOT of money

EH..depends where you're at

In NYC 80k is just getting by if you wanna live a little decent

 

[Rmsanger 10+ year member]

40$ per hour is 80k per year...

Thanks snipets, these people should be making $10-$15 per hour tops for driving a fork lift or putting on bumpers all day long.

Non-Transferable skills FTL

 

[Silverbane 10+ year member]

If they made $40 an hour.

Did you read the snippets I posted...

even at 28 per hour, that is 56 per year... For many area's that is very good. On 56 per year, you could get a 200,000 house single income quite easily...

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

ive been debating on putting about 300 bucks on gm stock. at

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

Did you read the snippets I posted...
even at 28 per hour, that is 56 per year... For many area's that is very good. On 56 per year, you could get a 200,000 house single income quite easily...

They are assuming too many variables. Not every employee gets the top rate. Only ones with seniority are getting paid that. No one is getting overtime.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

ive been debating on putting about 300 bucks on gm stock. at
I would invest in Ford. Their stock is the same price as GM's and they are best positioned to ride it out.

 

[Silverbane 10+ year member]

They are assuming too many variables. Not every employee gets the top rate. Only ones with seniority are getting paid that. No one is getting overtime.

How many people do you know normally get 30$ per hour to screw bumpers on?? Here in Edmonton, you need to be doing journyman trades to be taking home 30-40 per hour...and that is only because they are that much in demand...

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

I just called bob lutz with some ideas. massive new recycling operations to cut costs, steel aluminum plastic what else do you need?

best part of the grillings..private jets "you couldnt downgrade to first class to get here? ever think that would send a decent message, to show that maybe you get it?"

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

I would invest in Ford. Their stock is the same price as GM's and they are best positioned to ride it out.

sounds good, id rather put my money in ford anyway. ill have to chekc it out with my broker friend.

 

[atoz350 10+ year member]

they havent made taurus in a few years.

That is completely untrue. There is both a car and crossover SUV in production as we type.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

How many people do you know normally get 30$ per hour to screw bumpers on?? Here in Edmonton, you need to be doing journyman trades to be taking home 30-40 per hour...and that is only because they are that much in demand...

My whole family and it isn't as simple as just screwing in a bolt.