Team Kicker/Team Phat hertz

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Well, what a mess.
And people wonder why manufaturers are backing away from supporting competitors??? Does this shed any light on that subject to those of you who still ask that question?

I've been a part of Team Kicker for almost 2 years now, and our Team has some of the greatest people on it backed by some of the greatest support. Tracy...you are the friggin man.

All I keep thinking about is this one particular statement.... "we are all judges by the company we keep" This Mark guy is a part of your team. It doesnt matter if all of you agree Mark is making some bad decisions, it doesn't matter if you all are kinda mad at him for this.....until this situation gets resolved it might be in the best interest of your team (and as far as I'm concerned in the best interest of Team Kicker) to cut all ties until he settles his issues. I know I sure don't want to go to show somewhere and have someone who knows nothing but the info he's read about the Mark/TCAB/Phat Hertz/Kicker relationship...look at me in my Team Kicker Jersey and go..."boy, those Team Kicker guys sure are jerks"

This whole situation is making us all look bad in some way. As a proud member of Team Kicker, I of course would like to see a speedy resolution to this entire situation. But what you guys do, I can't control.

I would hate to see the "powers that be" at Stillwater decide that Team Kicker isn't worth all the hassle and negative publicity they are recieving on the internet. Face it, most buying decisions are made after someone does some 'net-searching', and this just looks bad on the whole Team.

I'm not saying that I've always made the best decisions while I've had manufacturer support, but I've learned from my mistakes and am only passing on what I consider to be some valuable knowledge.

Just my .02

ps....Tracy, you abo****ely rock dude. Kicker rocks, the product rocks, the support rocks, and the friendship rocks!!!!!

Team Kicker RULES!!!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
I couldn't agree more. I definitely love being on kicker and repping them at shows.

You should've seen how much flack I caught at the show this weekend because it was held at maxxsonics HQ. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I'm really surprised this thread is still going. In all honesty, I would take the time to reply to everyone, but i've been gone for 2 days, got about 3 hours of sleep, and just can't put forth the effort to effectively respond.

Thus, I will say it again, things are changing.

As for the whole swearing thing, it's a little easier to control in person (i.e. at work) than it is on the internet. Either way, if I was at work and somebody started bashing my friend and teammate, I wouldn't exactly say that I could hold back the swearing and whatnot, even if I'm at work.

Obviously if i'm just sitting and work and nothing is happening, i'm not going to randomly start cussing at people.

 
As for not running tcab, might wanna enlighten snb on that. He seems to think otherwise.

Well, I guess not then. I have talked to a few people on the team though that have said in the past they were going over to marks house to work on their cars, and have mark help them with their boxes...But I never said I knew for sure, I left it opened, I never really jump to conclusions...and what i said didnt start any drama in here, so sorry if it started any confusion, though I dont think it caused any harm here. SORRY PHT HTZ...even though they dominated once again yesterday...not as much as they could have, but yet they still had the most ranks on the board than any other team I believe.

 
As for the whole swearing thing, it's a little easier to control in person (i.e. at work) than it is on the internet. Either way, if I was at work and somebody started bashing my friend and teammate, I wouldn't exactly say that I could hold back the swearing and whatnot, even if I'm at work.

Obviously if i'm just sitting and work and nothing is happening, i'm not going to randomly start cussing at people.
You still dont understand what I am saying, thats fine at work, where your sponsor and potential customers for your sponsor will not see/hear it. Im not saying I dont swear, but its not good publicity for Kicker as a company, so if you dont want to risk losing something great I would tone things down a bit, I am not bashing you guys at all, just trying to give you guys a little help from an outsider looking in.

Also, things like this do not need to go on either! This is just plain wrong. Again even after the things I have said, you do not take it to heart, you are still not getting it.

http://audioforum.termpro.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000330.html

 
You still dont understand what I am saying, thats fine at work, where your sponsor and potential customers for your sponsor will not see/hear it. Im not saying I dont swear, but its not good publicity for Kicker as a company, so if you dont want to risk losing something great I would tone things down a bit, I am not bashing you guys at all, just trying to give you guys a little help from an outsider looking in.
Also, things like this do not need to go on either! This is just plain wrong. Again even after the things I have said, you do not take it to heart, you are still not getting it.

http://audioforum.termpro.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000330.html
Umm, do you even know where I work?

No offense or anything, but you don't know nearly enough about me to say things like that. I know you are not trying to be insulting, but I feel that you are.

And about that thread, a person asked me to post that because he was not going to be able to. If you knew the circumstances behind that thread, I think you may see things a little differently.

On a side note, i edited my post on termpro. Sorry things got out of hand. Once the person who wanted me to start the thread (pretty obvious who it is) i'm sure he'll take the blame for it. Not that I want or need that anyways.

 
well thats fine then bud, I never tried to be insulting, or anything like that, I was just trying to help you guys out, but anyhow. Im done with it, you guys keep doing what you think you should do, I will not say anymore on this subject, I have tried and tried to help you but to no avail. I hope you have a wonderful season, and keep getting louder.

Sincerely

Shawn Fleming

 
well thats fine then bud, I never tried to be insulting, or anything like that, I was just trying to help you guys out, but anyhow. Im done with it, you guys keep doing what you think you should do, I will not say anymore on this subject, I have tried and tried to help you but to no avail. I hope you have a wonderful season, and keep getting louder.
Sincerely

Shawn Fleming
I hope you understand that what I do on the internet is just that....the internet. People always seem to blow things WAY out of proportion because they don't know any of the circumstances behind things.

They take things for face value, which should not be done.

 
well thats fine then bud, I never tried to be insulting, or anything like that, I was just trying to help you guys out, but anyhow. Im done with it, you guys keep doing what you think you should do, I will not say anymore on this subject, I have tried and tried to help you but to no avail. I hope you have a wonderful season, and keep getting louder.
Sincerely

Shawn Fleming
They don't listen to anyone bro, not your fault. Some of them are just too retarded to think about how they represent their sponsor //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 
I hope you understand that what I do on the internet is just that....the internet. People always seem to blow things WAY out of proportion because they don't know any of the circumstances behind things.
They take things for face value, which should not be done.
Does tracy go around saying stuipd shit, just because...it the internet? Ah, no //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif. You have a lot to learn about business //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. I do realize most all of kicker customer will not see what you type on here, but that is still no excuse //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 
Does tracy go around saying stuipd shit, just because...it the internet? Ah, no //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif. You have a lot to learn about business //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. I do realize most all of kicker customer will not see what you type on here, but that is still no excuse //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.
Did I say I post stupid things because its the internet. NO

What I said is that people blow things out of proportion BECAUSE its the internet.

Once again, you post in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with you in any way.

Congratulations.

 
Did I say I post stupid things because its the internet. NO
What I said is that people blow things out of proportion BECAUSE its the internet.

Once again, you post in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with you in any way.

Congratulations.
You're suppose to let my post go and not be a jackass, but you don't understand that do you? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
You're suppose to let my post go and not be a jackass, but you don't understand that do you? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
I was clarifying my post to you, since you misinterpreted it the first time.

Or just tried to twist it around in your favor.

Either way.

 
They don't listen to anyone bro, not your fault. Some of them are just too retarded to think about how they represent their sponsor //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.
allright, I for one, do not like getting the team name dragged into this. TEAM PHAT HERTZ/TEAM KICKER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TCAB. we can't control what he does. we have tried to get on his *** about this for a while. stuff like this is making me look bad and i have nothing to do with it, UGH. thats why i stay out of these threads.

 
allright, I for one, do not like getting the team name dragged into this. TEAM PHAT HERTZ/TEAM KICKER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TCAB. we can't control what he does. we have tried to get on his *** about this for a while. stuff like this is making me look bad and i have nothing to do with it, UGH. thats why i stay out of these threads.
If he wasn;t a part of the team, this wouldn't be an issue for you guys. He is, so it is.

 
allright, I for one, do not like getting the team name dragged into this. TEAM PHAT HERTZ/TEAM KICKER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TCAB. we can't control what he does. we have tried to get on his *** about this for a while. stuff like this is making me look bad and i have nothing to do with it, UGH. thats why i stay out of these threads.
You seem like a good guy to me, I have ZERO problems with you at all, which is exactly why I used the word SOME in bold //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

Tcab is mark, mark is on your team...until you boot him it does have to do with you. I'm sure it takes more than you saying that he's gone, for him to get the boot...so I do realize there isnt a whole lot you can do by yourself //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif.

 
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