Subs That Can Handle 4K RMS or More

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RD Audio HW

RD Audio SHW

SoundStream XXX

T3 Audio TSNS

Cactus Sounds MK

 

[Kyle_Keating 10+ year member]

you're really looking at the problem wrong, if you just want to prove there is no sub that can take a 4k const power sinwave, well, you don't need to do any tests to prove that, i'll tell you right now there is none. and if there was one is should as heck would not be once of these 3" vc magically "cooled" SPL drivers that are floating around, the DD 99Z (example brought up in this thread) is not goin to take significantly any more or less power than any other well built 3" vc woofer.

the MTX jackhammer or Acupower might be close with their 6" vc's, but here is my advice:

What you need to do is look ask the question why do you need 4kw? Thats a lot of power and you can easily make a system incredibly loud with that much power. I can name a dozen pro audio subwooer systems that will take your head off with that much power. You should look at a more efficient subwoofer system, and that means woofer+box+power... total package. I include power in there because often times very efficient subwoofers need voltage EQ (not power) to drive them to potential.... big difference.

 

[RidnClean 5,000+ posts]

you're really looking at the problem wrong, if you just want to prove there is no sub that can take a 4k const power sinwave, well, you don't need to do any tests to prove that, i'll tell you right now there is none. and if there was one is should as heck would not be once of these 3" vc magically "cooled" SPL drivers that are floating around, the DD 99Z is not goin to take significantly any more or less power than any other well built 3" vc woofer.the MTX jackhammer or Acupower might be close with their 6" vc's, but here is my advice:

What you need to do is look ask the question why do you need 4kw? Thats a lot of power and you can easily make a system incredibly loud with that much power. I can name a dozen pro audio subwooer systems that will take your head off with that much power. You should look at a more efficient subwoofer system, and that means woofer+box+power... total package. I include power in there because often times very efficient subwoofers need voltage EQ (not power) to drive them to potential.... big difference.

im almost positive this guy has the knowledge //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

either suggest subs or dont worry about it.

 

[Bassman999 10+ year member]

Im watching to see what sub i need that can handle 4K rms daily. I have a small car that wants to be loud too....

 

[revots 10+ year member]

atomic apxx

 

[rusty_armadillo 10+ year member]

i have a SHW ill sell ya

 

[pd8731]

Funky Pups

Can't afford 'em.

Team PSI could probably build you something to handle that.. I talked to him about 15's for a wall and each one will need to take between 6k~8K daily and play music. He said he could do something but its not cheap... lol

I would really like to see that, but it sounds like a lot of hype and exaggeration.

you're really looking at the problem wrong, if you just want to prove there is no sub that can take a 4k const power sinwave, well, you don't need to do any tests to prove that, i'll tell you right now there is none. and if there was one is should as heck would not be once of these 3" vc magically "cooled" SPL drivers that are floating around, the DD 99Z (example brought up in this thread) is not goin to take significantly any more or less power than any other well built 3" vc woofer.the MTX jackhammer or Acupower might be close with their 6" vc's, but here is my advice:

What you need to do is look ask the question why do you need 4kw? Thats a lot of power and you can easily make a system incredibly loud with that much power. I can name a dozen pro audio subwooer systems that will take your head off with that much power. You should look at a more efficient subwoofer system, and that means woofer+box+power... total package. I include power in there because often times very efficient subwoofers need voltage EQ (not power) to drive them to potential.... big difference.

I want a single 18" for my own reasons and I want to know what can take the most power. If I ask what will be the loudest, I will get answers all over the place.

im almost positive this guy has the knowledge //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
either suggest subs or dont worry about it.

Thank you for not assuming I'm a moron like a lot of people on CA. Usually when I ask a legitimate question on this forum, I get a bunch of kids parroting the basics they've heard on this forum over and over.

Pretty good subs to look into so far, keep 'em comin' please.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

Is there any sub out there that can handle 4k RMS or more?
I have smelled the coils of the BTL, LMS-Ultra (or 5400), LMS-5200, and MT burning using 3,000 watts or less. You can argue forever that they can handle it daily. They absolutely cannot.

Please don't come in here and tell me off clean wattage and a proper box they can handle it. They just thermally cannot take it. Anyone who says they have put more than 3k on any of the listed subs for more than 30 seconds or so and it didn't smell was probably playing smooth jazz with their head unit at 12/33.

Remember people, I am talking thermally, not mechanically.

to tell u the truth...if the box is not 100% it really cant take that power thermally...for example..i built a new box recently and its 5.6 cubes with 134 square inches of port tuned to 52hz...i was only sending each of me subs 400watts and i was smelling coil badly.....as soon as i put the a small piece of wood to give the subs something to load off of it made a huuuuge difference and i slammed 800 to each sub and i been bumpin ever since...i say that to say this...box has everytrhing to do with it....maybe ur box has a low imp rise ....who knows but the lms ultra/5400 can take well over 4k daily.i seen that for myself and it begs for more...the 5200 3k all day long.....the btl i would say 3500 watts would be the most i personally would put on it...mt i would say 2500 daily due to not having the cooling the btl has and the build quality is not the same as the old days...as far as smelling coil...of course if u slammin that much power into a sub u will burn off the excess glue..but u wont fry coils if u have user control and ur box is letting ur sub load off good( i hope i said that right..sounded kind of funny comming out)

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[pd8731]

to tell u the truth...if the box is not 100% it really cant take that power thermally...for example..i built a new box recently and its 5.6 cubes with 134 square inches of port tuned to 52hz...i was only sending each of me subs 400watts and i was smelling coil badly.....as soon as i put the a small piece of wood to give the subs something to load off of it made a huuuuge difference and i slammed 800 to each sub and i been bumpin ever since...i say that to say this...box has everytrhing to do with it....maybe ur box has a low imp rise ....who knows but the lms ultra/5400 can take well over 4k daily.i seen that for myself and it begs for more...the 5200 3k all day long.....the btl i would say 3500 watts would be the most i personally would put on it...mt i would say 2500 daily due to not having the cooling the btl has and the build quality is not the same as the old days...as far as smelling coil...of course if u slammin that much power into a sub u will burn off the excess glue..but u wont fry coils if u have user control and ur box is letting ur sub load off good( i hope i said that right..sounded kind of funny comming out)
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[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

lmao...

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[sundownz Pro Seller]

you're really looking at the problem wrong, if you just want to prove there is no sub that can take a 4k const power sinwave, well, you don't need to do any tests to prove that, i'll tell you right now there is none. and if there was one is should as heck would not be once of these 3" vc magically "cooled" SPL drivers that are floating around, the DD 99Z (example brought up in this thread) is not goin to take significantly any more or less power than any other well built 3" vc woofer.the MTX jackhammer or Acupower might be close with their 6" vc's, but here is my advice:

What you need to do is look ask the question why do you need 4kw? Thats a lot of power and you can easily make a system incredibly loud with that much power. I can name a dozen pro audio subwooer systems that will take your head off with that much power. You should look at a more efficient subwoofer system, and that means woofer+box+power... total package. I include power in there because often times very efficient subwoofers need voltage EQ (not power) to drive them to potential.... big difference.

Agreed.

 

[pd8731]

Once you get into locked a serious subwoofer collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

 

[skmfkr 5,000+ posts]

RD audio heavyweight

x2 i smell mine, but i played it for the 2.5hour drive on i95 from jax to sav just fine. but of course im sure im clipping the amp pretty bad.

 

[pd8731]

Fine, let's go this direction if you people want to defect from what I asked.

Give me 2 15s that would like 3k rms each all day long.

Again, I know that the BTL, MT, 5200, etc will not take this on a tone for more than a minute or so. I want something that will, if that something exists.

Subs would have 3.5 cubic feet each max. Absolutely no more.

Assume volume will be at (clean wave provided) max all day playing tones.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

Fine, let's go this direction if you people want to defect from what I asked.
Give me 2 15s that would like 3k rms each all day long.

Again, I know that the BTL, MT, 5200, etc will not take this on a tone for more than a minute or so. I want something that will, if that something exists.

Subs would have 3.5 cubic feet each max. Absolutely no more.

Assume volume will be at (clean wave provided) max all day playing tones.

um...wat about music?...who listens 2 tones all day long?

tones with that much power = death to speakers

music with that much power = play allday long

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