Stupid Question

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

Sure I can, im just an upscale Redneck, that does not do half a$$ installs...

Touché. I don't do half-*** installs either, so you don't really have a place to judge my installs...

I've never had a crimped terminal come off on me (properly crimped). However, I do grab my torch, my solder and a pair of tongs and go to town, just in case.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

telling someone they have to solder a joint is bad advice because it isn't even needed. anytime you advise someone to do something that is not needed it's considered bad advice. now take the pole out of your ***; unless of course you like it there. what ever floats your boat

Well, I apologize I believe there's no such thing as overkill.

It's not my fault you do the bare minimum and get away with it.

Just because it can work doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.

 

[scarolinablazin 10+ year member]

Another Redneck shop working out of your garage im assuming, typical....

awwww isn't that SWEET you made an AE just to get on here and try to start shit because you have no life. and you couldn't install a radio if your life depended on it. feggot GTFO

 

[Kodiakid 10+ year member]

telling someone they have to solder a joint is bad advice because it isn't even needed. anytime you advise someone to do something that is not needed it's considered bad advice. now take the pole out of your ***; unless of course you like it there. what ever floats your boat

Grow up silly kid, and It shows your lack of workmanship if you dont take the time to do something properly. but then again I can see you banging the terminal with a hammer and then throwing some black elec tape on it. Son you about as good as a hooker with no hands.

 

[Upzaw2000]

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[scarolinablazin 10+ year member]

Well, I apologize I believe there's no such thing as overkill.It's not my fault you do the bare minimum and get away with it.

Just because it can work doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.

yea, because if something works and never has a problem you should always make it harder than it needs to be. solder isn't in any way going to make the connection any stronger, so why add it? to make yourself feel you're doing it better?? whatever floats your boat there LeRoy

 

[scarolinablazin 10+ year member]

Grow up silly kid, and It shows your lack of workmanship if you dont take the time to do something properly. but then again I can see you banging the terminal with a hammer and then throwing some black elec tape on it. Son you about as good as a hooker with no hands.

a hooker with no hands would be the same as a hooker with hands moron. unless of course you're so ugly that even a hooker is only willing to give you a handjob.

 

[Kodiakid 10+ year member]

Typical 16 year old response, shut up before I call your mom and get you kicked off the cpu for a week.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

Grow up silly kid, and It shows your lack of workmanship if you dont take the time to do something properly. but then again I can see you banging the terminal with a hammer and then throwing some black elec tape on it. Son you about as good as a hooker with no hands.

That's actually what I do. I go at it with a hammer and a chisel then use some heat shrink or electrical tape... I don't have huge *** crimpers. -shrug- Nothing wrong with that. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/imo.gif.3a57bcc70a4835dc53e86ffae1a0b041.gif

yea, because if something works and never has a problem you should always make it harder than it needs to be. solder isn't in any way going to make the connection any stronger, so why add it? to make yourself feel you're doing it better?? whatever floats your boat there LeRoy

More surface area = better electrical flow. It's basic physics. Adding solder in between the joints and all the cracks helps for the flow to be much smoother and greater. It's the same reasoning on why the Big 3 is so popular in the car audio scene... more area for power to flow through. Same with soldering.

Anything else you'd like to say to dig yourself deeper, Jimbo?

 

[Kodiakid 10+ year member]

That's actually what I do. I go at it with a hammer and a chisel then use some heat shrink or electrical tape... I don't have huge *** crimpers. -shrug- Nothing wrong with that. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/imo.gif.3a57bcc70a4835dc53e86ffae1a0b041.gif


More surface area = better electrical flow. It's basic physics. Adding solder in between the joints and all the cracks helps for the flow to be much smoother and greater.

Anything else you'd like to say to dig yourself deeper, Jimbo?

Bang away then, whatever make you happy Slappy!

 

[ThatChevyGuy 5,000+ posts]

you should both be banned for giving bad advice. i've been installing longer than either of you have been out of diapers. and not once has a crimped terminal of mine ever came loose under normal operation.

You really should be banned for your ignorance and stupidity.

You really need to stop posting nonsense like this and in my sig

 

[Torgus 10+ year member]

lolz i don't usually post but i had to comment on this:

solder is:

#1 meant for a connection aka better transfer not to hold things together

#2 it also can hold things in place it's an added bonus

I used to work in a wire manufacturing plant. i was the head of the new product introduction department. there is no solder joint in the history on man which can withstand a pull test vs a properly crimped connector. period. fact. i'd love to see anyone argue this point with some facts. if i still worked there i'd make a video for you(those who think solder is fine) idiots and take a 00 with a correct connector on it properly crimped on a pull test machine and show you how it can withstand 5x+ more LBs of resistance vs a soldered joint. anyone who has any experience in this field or is an ME/EE knows this.

it's nothing complicated.

On a personal note i once bought a car from an idiot who actually soldered the connection on his 00 gauge wire to the connector at the batt. and guess what? it failed when i changed out the battery. A correct crimp + a 'good' solder job is the best way to do it. Go ask any EE/ME about this. it's not rocket science it's basic electro-mechanical theory.

is the solder overkill generally and not needed? yes. if you're really worried about a good connection when using such low gauges of wire just go down to the next one. The amount you improve the connection by soldering it is very nominal. again it is the 'best' way to do it but generally it's overkill and if you needed to solder to make the 'best connector possible' the wire after crimping it for maximum current flow you should be going down to a larger gauge wire.

/thread

side note: the only reason to solder it imo would be encase of corrosion. however it shouldn't be getting corroded any ways so...

edit: you should really buy the right crimpers for the connection fwiw. again if i was at my old job i'd show you the difference between a 'hack' crimp and a 'correct' crimp in regards to a pull test. however in the real world it's not such a factor. but if i was doing installs for money i'd never not use a crimper for the fact it ends up looking hacked when you bang on it with a hammer & chisel as stated above. you can always vice press it which is probably the best you can do without the proper crimping tool ascetically and mechanically.

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

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[DonH 5,000+ posts]

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[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

why did the controversy end? keep arguing!!!