Speaker EQ Help. Too much 'vocal', need to balance out soundstage.

[opfreak 10+ year member]

car: Sunfire 2dr

Speakers pioneer ts-d720

Moutning: woofer in door panel, tweeter in I geuss the a piller (where the side view mirrors are).

Amp sony xm4045.

Doors are covered with second skin.

Fiance claims we hear too many vocals and not enough music. And now that she mentioned it, she's probably right.

How can I fix this? move tweeter? eq somehow?

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[ProgMtl 10+ year member]

EQing would help the problem...does your HU have an EQ in it (or some similar setting to help tone down certain frequencies)?

 

[opfreak 10+ year member]

I have a pioneer p8mp, yes it does have an eq, but I never really played with it. What kind of frequencies would I have to change?

heres a link to the manual.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_11221/103539299OPERATION%20MANUAL%20DEH-P8MP.pdf

I'm a total noob when it comes to eq settings.

 

[ProgMtl 10+ year member]

Give this a read and see if it helps

http://www.digitalprosound.com/2002/03_mar/tutorials/mixing_excerpt1.htm

 

[opfreak 10+ year member]

^thats deep, i'll have to start playing with settings.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

turn down the mids on the eq....

 

[ProgMtl 10+ year member]

guess it would depend on who the vocalist is as to what you need to turn down....some of the power metal I listen to has vocalists in the tweeter range I'm sure //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

guess it would depend on who the vocalist is as to what you need to turn down....some of the power metal I listen to has vocalists in the tweeter range I'm sure //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

lol...never considered that:wow:

 

[CaptNKILL 10+ year member]

guess it would depend on who the vocalist is as to what you need to turn down....some of the power metal I listen to has vocalists in the tweeter range I'm sure //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

This is the main reason I don't mess with my EQ too much. With vocals from bands like Edguy, Iced Earth and Into Eternity soaring up in the "whistle" range and others like Nevermore, Moonspell or Sentenced playing from the sub half the time, its impossible to get a decent balance for all music.

 

[opfreak 10+ year member]

for my fiance's ears, when she's in the car, its mainly top 40 pop fluf I have to worry about.

As long as I can get those vocals down to hear more of the 'music' as she claims i'm golden.

 

[ProgMtl 10+ year member]

This is the main reason I don't mess with my EQ too much. With vocals from bands like Edguy, Iced Earth and Into Eternity soaring up in the "whistle" range and others like Nevermore, Moonspell or Sentenced playing from the sub half the time, its impossible to get a decent balance for all music.

Nice choice in music!!! Now that Matt is back with Iced Earth the vocals won't be so high pitched

 

[ProgMtl 10+ year member]

Going to see Symphony X, Into Eternity and Epica next Tuesday night in a club that seats 200...got dinner reservations at the table right next to the stage...can't wait

 

[lillitnn92 10+ year member]

i had sort of the same issue, i keep everything flat when starting out and listen to a good selection of genre and age of recording. in the end, a cut in the mid down to -2 did the trick. i don't believe in boosting anything over +2, this comes from being at at home musician with a little recording studio. i'll cut before i boost anything.

 

[opfreak 10+ year member]

I found one source of the problem, its less now, but better..

even though I set the eq's to flat, the old 'loundness' setting didn't rest and was still at low.

since it boosts both lows and highs at lower volumes, It made sense that when the radio was at a talking level. the vocals overwelgmed the music. Which is why at fist when I listened to the system louder, the peaky vocals, weren't as loud.

now i need to work to get back some of the low end/midbass range. that the 'loudness' did boost

 

[reed dollaz 10+ year member]

i would say turn down the mids on the HU, and if you have an external EQ lower your 350hz, 2.5khz, and 6khz.