So I did a back to back comparison; audiopipe 30001d and DD M1C

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

I didn't say they knew what they were doing. I said their amps worked fine and almost none reported any problems.

So, regardless of any amount of knowledge or experience, a review is simply a review to you.

God, you're ignorant.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

So, regardless of any amount of knowledge or experience, a review is simply a review to you.
God, you're ignorant.

What am I ignorant of? It sounds just like my DD amp, and the reliability really isn't bad. What am I being ignorant about please tell me.

 

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

What am I ignorant of? It sounds just like my DD amp, and the reliability really isn't bad. What am I being ignorant about please tell me.

You just implied that you're more than willing to accept thorough reviews on junk product from people with little to no experience in the car audio field. How isn't that ignorant? Those people have no freaking idea what they're talking about and to you, 'Hey, they wrote good stuff so that's okay. Experience or knowledge doesn't matter'. That's ignorance.

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

But mine is exact setup sub box everything just a 5 minute amp swap. Nothing changed except less bass with the 1700 watt DD amp compared to the 2,000 watt AP amp

You seriously can't be this ignorant.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

You just implied that you're more than willing to accept thorough reviews on junk product from people with little to no experience in the car audio field. How isn't that ignorant? Those people have no freaking idea what they're talking about and to you, 'Hey, they wrote good stuff so that's okay. Experience or knowledge doesn't matter'. That's ignorance.

There's a difference between ignorance and finding out for yourself instead of taking everyoun elses completely misleading advice like you sir.

Pay $150 new with warranty for an amp that sounds exactly the same, actually a little better, than an amp that is $500. Yeah that's fucking stipid dude.

 

[cfox10 10+ year member]

There's a difference between ignorance and finding out for yourself instead of taking everyoun elses completely misleading advice like you sir.
Pay $150 new with warranty for an amp that sounds exactly the same, actually a little better, than an amp that is $500. Yeah that's fucking stipid dude.

I doubt you really even tried the dd amp. You'd be sh1tting your pants with how much better sound quality and REAL output it has over the audiopipe... either you're trolling, your ears are broken, you couldn't provide the dd enough power, or you're clipping the shit out of the signal going to the audiopipe and think it sounds better. /Go to your local shop and ask to demo a vehicle with good quality equip... and if they are running audiopipe, they don't deserve to be in business.

 

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

There's a difference between ignorance and finding out for yourself instead of taking everyoun elses completely misleading advice like you sir.
Pay $150 new with warranty for an amp that sounds exactly the same, actually a little better, than an amp that is $500. Yeah that's fucking stipid dude.

I'm taking the word of people who have pride and joy in the hobby, and spend hours on hours doing research and testing to find the best product.

You're taking the word of cheap asses who found a 3000w amp and called it awesome for the price because they're too stupid too hook up an o-scope on it.

And I'm the stupid one. Have fun playing with your garbage equipment.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Can we start with clamp tests and go from there?Personally I am certain the DD amp does not put out more then the AP, but maybe we can throw a couple different subs in the trunk and see what we come up with.. My XXX will be sold as of tonite.

Sure, we can put them on the test bench and clamp them, but that wont be free nor would dropping in several subs and enclosures in your car.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

I doubt you really even tried the dd amp. You'd be sh1tting your pants with how much better sound quality and REAL output it has over the audiopipe... either you're trolling, your ears are broken, you couldn't provide the dd enough power, or you're clipping the shit out of the signal going to the audiopipe and think it sounds better. /Go to your local shop and ask to demo a vehicle with good quality equip... and if they are running audiopipe, they don't deserve to be in business.

Why the hell would I lie about something like this? To make money? Yeah if that was the case don't you think I'd be trying to sell the AP and keep the DD?

Damn

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Sure, we can put them on the test bench and clamp them, but that wont be free nor would dropping in several subs and enclosures in your car.

Yeah I don't think I would do it even if it was free the more I think about it. Even if this thing clamped 5,000 watts people would still say it was ****

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I have clamped them before a few times. I am welk aware if what they can and can not do. Swing by the shop some time and I can get you a demo of a car or two so you can see what 3k rms actually is.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

I have clamped them before a few times. I am welk aware if what they can and can not do.

What were your results?

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

What were your results?

Your feelings will be hurt.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

What were your results?

Personally I have never seen over 2100 rms @ 2 ohm with out heavy clipping/distortion

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Your feelings will be hurt.

Well it can't be too bad being mine outdid the M1c, I do however realize that the AP at 4 ohms is a hell of a lot more efficient than at 1 ohm, bot I would guess at least 25-2700 watts on a good electrical, which isn't bad for $250 with waranty, stilll half the price of the more popular brands' 2500 watt amps