So I did a back to back comparison; audiopipe 30001d and DD M1C

[michaellane 5,000+ posts]

Some people just like the sound of distortion. And the m1c wired for 4ohms only puts out 600ish. You can give up dude unless u have vids of both amps clamped at the same ohm load same voltage and on an oscope your pissing in the wind.
if you like the audiopoop good gor you glad your happy ill stick with reputable brands.

You want an audible difference hook up a jl slash 1000 next ti the audiopoop. I promise squeeky clean power sounds totally different

Lol @jl being squeeky clean amp. Smh

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Personal opinion > scientific data proven by using OScops, camp meters, etc.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Lol @jl being squeeky clean amp. Smh

Come out to Suffolk and ill show you some squeaky clean JL amps.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

not sure why you are so mad

i dont know how you see me as mad im just stating facts i own very little audio gear at the moment most of which is knu wire, and really i dont have a favorite company. jl is too pricey for me but i can still have quality power for less without dropping down to your level. if i want to save money i buy used. i bought a Mean machine 4000d for 300 a while back and i bet that would make your audiopoop sound weak as hell and its clean power. then since it actually had resale value i sold it on here for 700 and made a profit so yea your dirty audiopoop is yours never will it be mine

 

[michaellane 5,000+ posts]

Come out to Suffolk and ill show you some squeaky clean JL amps.

Jl is jl no matter where you are. They make nice stuff but...ehhh you already know what im going to say. Everyone has their own opinion.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

You guys are fucking morons

The DD was at 1 ohm, the AP was at 4. Maybe theere was less strain on the electrical from the 4 ohm amp, maybe it really does put out 2,000 watts at 4 ohm like it is supposed to, I don't know. But the sound was the same but the AP amp was louder, and the bass sounded clean. Wjen the gains get to the point of distorton it is noticeable, and I back off.

Both thes were done at a similar level of (lack of) distortion. Geez.

Like I said earlier, the AP was at 4 ohms.

The amp puts out rated wattage, just as clean as the DD amp, if the AP amp was wired at 1 ohm, I'm sure distortion would set in faster, but at 4 ohm it gives a clean, powerful signal, I'd say the 1800-2000 rating at 4 ohms is spot on since it audibly edged out the DD. Even at full clip on both amps the audiopipe was noticeably louder, and cleaner power is louder than dirty, right.

I'm just stating facts, not trying to turn the haters cause that's not possible, even if I got it both clamped and oscoped with the highest quality equipment, along with videos, notarized documents an an affidavitt signed by a group of nuns verifying they had witnessed the results themselves.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Your a ******* tool. Your just making threads to get attention at this point. We are all glad you like your super peaky bottom heavy fifteen and your fleamarket amp.. find something else to talk about or stop "contributing". Also, I find it suspect that your audiopipe puts out 1800 watts RMS, but it didnt' push the sub "a great deal harder" than the DD... That DD amp is a 1200-1500 watts tops at 1ohm.. At 4ohms your going to be lucky to get 400 watts RMS out of it. You should have been seeing 2x the voltage so 2x the excursion. .If you didn't... Which you admitted, that amp is likely closer to 1k. Good question from DDtc too. What impedence is your RE XXX?

I am not an idiot. I wired the sub to 1 ohm when I hooked it up to the DD amp. I also tried the AP at 1 ohm but it was clip city. Results: AP FTW. That may be helpful information don't ya think? Not only does it prove what I knew all along, it is pretty solid evidence that they do in fact do rated with low distortion.

Ok.mugen08....troll all day.

I will feed you, MR TROLL.

I am a DD Dealer and I have the equipment to properly test amps on active loads.

I have a few DD M1c's in stock. So, I will grab one and put it on my test bench.

I will subject it active loads...and post the voltage and amperage input/output of the DD M1c.

AND....I will also post shots of the O-scope at the same time!!!!

I've not scoped the DD M1c before, so this will be a learning experience for all.

Power to you brother, but if you try to tell me the DD amp makes more clean power than the AP, but yet the AP is 1-3 DB louder, you'd have some 'splainin to do

Op reminds me of those westborough church fanatics that force their religious beliefs down people's throats. In this case he's trying to shove audiopipe up our asses.

I'll shove my wood down your throat ***

Personal opinion > scientific data proven by using OScops, camp meters, etc.

You aren't going to tell me the DD makes more power, cleaner power, yet is 1-3 db lower than the AP amp. What are you getting at here?

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

i dont know how you see me as mad im just stating facts i own very little audio gear at the moment most of which is knu wire, and really i dont have a favorite company. jl is too pricey for me but i can still have quality power for less without dropping down to your level. if i want to save money i buy used. i bought a Mean machine 4000d for 300 a while back and i bet that would make your audiopoop sound weak as hell and its clean power. then since it actually had resale value i sold it on here for 700 and made a profit so yea your dirty audiopoop is yours never will it be mine

You are an angry little man ignorantly following the Audiopipe bashing banwagon like a little lemming.

So you bought an amp at the extreme low end of the price spectrum and sold it at the extreme highest, how does that make audiopipe ****?

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

edit; troll post

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

edit; troll post

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Ok.mugen08....troll all day.

I will feed you, MR TROLL.

I am a DD Dealer and I have the equipment to properly test amps on active loads.

I have a few DD M1c's in stock. So, I will grab one and put it on my test bench.

I will subject it active loads...and post the voltage and amperage input/output of the DD M1c.

AND....I will also post shots of the O-scope at the same time!!!!

I've not scoped the DD M1c before, so this will be a learning experience for all.

Whoooa there partner, so your clamp test of just one of the two amps in question will prove more than my real world listening test of both back to back?

Dumb fuck.

On another note, do you know my friend Paul Bradshaw? He's from Monroe....

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

While I'm ok with trolling to an extent, I'm about to lock this thread since the OP is only trolling at this point and likely the entire purpose of the thread in the first place.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

So how do we know if this is true or not? I can say X amp is louder than Y amp, doesn't mean it's true.
Without clamp tests showing what each amp is putting out, this thread is pointless. Well this thread is pointless anyway; you're not going to make the people who hate AP like it...

If you are happy with your amp, then that's all that matters. It's your system, not anybody elses, what they think of your system shouldn't matter to you if you are happy with it.

The sub was definately hitting harder with the AP amp up until the point of distortion, and also with both amps clipped to ****. That means more power to the sub, I don't need to clamp it to come to that conclusion einstein. If the AP amp has more distortion, which I'm sure it does, it was not audible, I have no reason to lie, just trying to dispel any myths.

Trust me, if the M1C would've sounded better/ hit harder, I would much rather have hade a better name brand amp on that expensive *** sub, it just didn't make the cut.

The logical explanation is that both put out rated power, 1700 for the DD and 1800-2000 (probably closer to 2,000) for the AP.

 

[bgowdy 5,000+ posts]

Some people just like the sound of distortion. And the m1c wired for 4ohms only puts out 600ish. You can give up dude unless u have vids of both amps clamped at the same ohm load same voltage and on an oscope your pissing in the wind.
if you like the audiopoop good gor you glad your happy ill stick with reputable brands.

You want an audible difference hook up a jl slash 1000 next ti the audiopoop. I promise squeeky clean power sounds totally different

not trying to be smart but he did say he wired the AP3k @ 4ohm & the M1C @ 1ohm ...... just saying

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

I'm not sure what your definition of trolling is. Oh and by the way, since you didn't answer my message are you available to clamp these amps? I live in Moore.