Shitty Stinger RCA grounds

[headless 10+ year member]

I just spent over a month trying to track down a problem in my car involving my new 1500XXK sub amp. Any time the 1500xxk would play bass, i'd get nasty noise out of my front speakers - which were on a 4150xxk. The noise was directly related to the sub amp playing, and even with all output from my deck disabled to the front channels i could still hear it clearly. bzzt. bzzt. bzzzt bzzt bztt.

Thinking the new amp was at fault (my existing amp combo of a Punch 100IX and my 4150XXK had no noise) i sent it off for repairs - and got it back from AudioTekX after he said he couldn't figure out the source of the noise. I sent it off to DB-R and he said he could not reproduce the problem at all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Well, i finally decided to pull everything out of my car and test each component individually. 2 days of ****ing around with things has revealed that all 3 sets of my stinger rca's are the problem.

I have a few nice rca cables i tested with in the house - no noise at all with those.

So, i pulled out the DVM. Taking 1 side of the rca pair, i probed both plugs' shields. On the shitty stinger cables, there is connectivity between both wires' shields. This is the interesting thing - on one side of the cable, touching the 2 plugs shields gives me 0.1 ohms resistance - the shield is basically connected RIGHT THERE. On the other side of the cable, touching both shields gives me 1.8 ohms of resistance.

Checking 'normally' touching matching plugs on opposite ends of the wire gives me 0.9 ohms resistance. So it appears that the ground/shields on these wires are connected on one side of the wires. If i touch both shields on the 'far' side, the connection appears to go all the way down the one wire and back up the other, giving me 1.8 ohms resistance (the sum of both wires).

Checking the other side, i have 0.1 ohms because the shields are essentially fused together there.

So after much testing, I realised that if the side of the rca's that reads 0.1 ohms across the 2 wires' grounds is plugged in my HU, and the high ohm reading side is plugged into my amp, i get no noise. Reverse the cable...****ing NOISE.

The shields on my other rca cables are totally independent per wire, and they have nowhere near 0.9 ohms resistance from one side to the other. ALL 3 of my stinger cables are like this. **** stinger rca cables. The funny thing is, my punch 100ix never had a problem with it.

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[headless 10+ year member]

**** stinger

 

[headless 10+ year member]

got the new rca's today. 25 foot from monoprice.com for only 6$ each! The resistance on these cables is HALF that of the stinger's 17foot cables. **** stinger cables. These cables actually do sound considerably better than the stingers.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Exactly which Stinger RCA's are they?

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Exactly which Stinger RCA's are they?

Hyper 'double shielded'

http://cgi.ebay.com/STINGER-HYPER-SERIES-BEST-CAR-AUDIO-2-CHANNEL-RCA-17'-!_W0QQitemZ310122680290QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090214?IMSfp=TL090214106006r37349

 

[caraudiotech 10+ year member]

Just and FYI for the other people reading this post.

The cables are supposed to be grounded at one end, this is the definition of a Directional cable. If he used the interconnects in the right orientation, they would eliminate the chance for noise.

Reading instructions is a good way to avoid these kinds of issues.

I just spent over a month trying to track down a problem in my car involving my new 1500XXK sub amp. Any time the 1500xxk would play bass, i'd get nasty noise out of my front speakers - which were on a 4150xxk. The noise was directly related to the sub amp playing, and even with all output from my deck disabled to the front channels i could still hear it clearly. bzzt. bzzt. bzzzt bzzt bztt.
Thinking the new amp was at fault (my existing amp combo of a Punch 100IX and my 4150XXK had no noise) i sent it off for repairs - and got it back from AudioTekX after he said he couldn't figure out the source of the noise. I sent it off to DB-R and he said he could not reproduce the problem at all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Well, i finally decided to pull everything out of my car and test each component individually. 2 days of ****ing around with things has revealed that all 3 sets of my stinger rca's are the problem.

I have a few nice rca cables i tested with in the house - no noise at all with those.

So, i pulled out the DVM. Taking 1 side of the rca pair, i probed both plugs' shields. On the shitty stinger cables, there is connectivity between both wires' shields. This is the interesting thing - on one side of the cable, touching the 2 plugs shields gives me 0.1 ohms resistance - the shield is basically connected RIGHT THERE. On the other side of the cable, touching both shields gives me 1.8 ohms of resistance.

Checking 'normally' touching matching plugs on opposite ends of the wire gives me 0.9 ohms resistance. So it appears that the ground/shields on these wires are connected on one side of the wires. If i touch both shields on the 'far' side, the connection appears to go all the way down the one wire and back up the other, giving me 1.8 ohms resistance (the sum of both wires).

Checking the other side, i have 0.1 ohms because the shields are essentially fused together there.

So after much testing, I realised that if the side of the rca's that reads 0.1 ohms across the 2 wires' grounds is plugged in my HU, and the high ohm reading side is plugged into my amp, i get no noise. Reverse the cable...****ing NOISE.

The shields on my other rca cables are totally independent per wire, and they have nowhere near 0.9 ohms resistance from one side to the other. ALL 3 of my stinger cables are like this. **** stinger rca cables. The funny thing is, my punch 100ix never had a problem with it.