when i shipped my 45 pound goliath sub the first time they let me do it in the original packaging and it was 35 dollars insured then when i shipped the second goliath some ***** said the original packaging wasn't secure enough and said i had to put it in another box ***** charged me 8 dollars for the box and i dont know what else and it ended up being 45 dollars insured *****es //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif