Seriously now... IA 20.1 vs. Orion 2500D NO BS

[slim j 10+ year member]

.707 drives rms, its the average of the peak and valley of the wave...
Since "peak" meters is VERY hard to find today (already have rms meters built in) your basically taking the RMS of the RMS...

All of the meters are already RMS...unless your using some cheap po-dunk thing from the late 1990's...

Its kind of hard to drive RMS from an RMS equation...

The only way you could use .707...is if you do NOT have any sort of RMS metering systems, Voltage or Current related....

Basically you are taking the RMS of the RMS...and cheating yourself out of power...

So, when using a clamp meter voltage x current is adequate?

 

[HCCAfan]

You actually have to pull a resistor on the protection board, pretty simple process.

yeah, my bad, i was thinking of the 1200d's, they used to be a resistor and now its a jumper you pull out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[HCCAfan]

whoa whoa whoa, I have been gone for a day and everything blew up...what the hell are you gonna be doing inside of my amp?
UCP-I had to work all day yesterday and didnt get your voice mail until like 2 am...PM me with whatever you want to do...this Kia rental car may hinder the box, but I can drive the truck to get it...I can come by anytime after today.

EVERYONE INVOLVED (flakko, UCP) get ahold of me ASAP...flakko-you need to run down with me everything you plan on doing with our very pretty and expensive equipment!

just pulling a resistor, wont hurt it for daily usage or normal usage, just takes the overvoltage protection out.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

just pulling a resistor, wont hurt it for daily usage or normal usage, just takes the overvoltage protection out.

Seems like someone should ask him if he wants his amp modded. Everyone's assuming he's all for it. (Not picking at you.)

 

[scottiej 10+ year member]

oh shoot i didnt read this...
im pretty sure they can dissipate 80a...i mean theyre gonna have to test a really really really REALLY big amp soon i believe it can handle a 20.1

they mainly use a .5 ohm resistive load on all thier ax's, and i think the Merlins. but a 4 2 1 shouldnt be a problem.

They are going to use an o-scope.

i think 12, 13.8, 14.4, 16/17 is what we gonna do.

ill have more details tomorrow. also LMK if you shipped it jason.

I dont think you're gonna want to do a .5ohm resistive load on these amps... I think what he means is that the loads he uses go in .5ohm incriments. You have to keep in mind that in a car, with the amps hooked up to a reactive load of about .5 your impedence rise usually goes to almost 3 ohms in some cases and as low as around 1 ohm in other cases, so the amps never see a load much lower than 1 ohm. Even when hooked up at .25 or .125 the imp still rises to around 1 ohm. Just wanted to warn ya... with the protect removed from the Orion the test could turn ugly real fast.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

I dont think you're gonna want to do a .5ohm resistive load on these amps... I think what he means is that the loads he uses go in .5ohm incriments. You have to keep in mind that in a car, with the amps hooked up to a reactive load of about .5 your impedence rise usually goes to almost 3 ohms in some cases and as low as around 1 ohm in other cases, so the amps never see a load much lower than 1 ohm. Even when hooked up at .25 or .125 the imp still rises to around 1 ohm. Just wanted to warn ya... with the protect removed from the Orion the test could turn ugly real fast.

If I send you money will you over night me some Fajita's from that restaraunt? They were so tasty... I've been thinking about driving down there just to have a bite...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

So, when using a clamp meter voltage x current is adequate?

correct

 

[scottiej 10+ year member]

If I send you money will you over night me some Fajita's from that restaraunt? They were so tasty... I've been thinking about driving down there just to have a bite...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif.

come on down... we'll go for lunch... better hurry... lunch is in 15 min... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

correct

Which V do I use? The dotted line or the straight line?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

correct

Which V do I use? The dotted line or the straight line?

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

come on down... we'll go for lunch... better hurry... lunch is in 15 min... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

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[flakko 5,000+ posts]

whoa whoa whoa, I have been gone for a day and everything blew up...what the hell are you gonna be doing inside of my amp?
UCP-I had to work all day yesterday and didnt get your voice mail until like 2 am...PM me with whatever you want to do...this Kia rental car may hinder the box, but I can drive the truck to get it...I can come by anytime after today.

EVERYONE INVOLVED (flakko, UCP) get ahold of me ASAP...flakko-you need to run down with me everything you plan on doing with our very pretty and expensive equipment!

they mainly use a .5 ohm resistive load on all thier ax's, and i think the Merlins. but a 4 2 1 shouldnt be a problem.

They are going to use an o-scope.

i think 12, 13.8, 14.4, 16/17 is what we gonna do.

thats the basics... JR is out sick today so i cant get much more info.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

I dont think you're gonna want to do a .5ohm resistive load on these amps... I think what he means is that the loads he uses go in .5ohm incriments. You have to keep in mind that in a car, with the amps hooked up to a reactive load of about .5 your impedence rise usually goes to almost 3 ohms in some cases and as low as around 1 ohm in other cases, so the amps never see a load much lower than 1 ohm. Even when hooked up at .25 or .125 the imp still rises to around 1 ohm. Just wanted to warn ya... with the protect removed from the Orion the test could turn ugly real fast.

nope he said a ".5 ohm resisitive load" to test the Merlins and AX's

as for the orion.... i need milenkos permission.

 

[scottiej 10+ year member]

Which V do I use? The dotted line or the straight line?

lol... the dotted line is AC Voltage, the straight line is DC Voltage. If you're testing amp output that is AC... if your testing battery voltage that is DC //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

Which V do I use? The dotted line or the straight line?

the one with the "wave" ( or dotted)

the straight line is DC