Senate passes 800 billion dollar stimulus without 1 member readind the actual bill!!!

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Fresh water is not near as much of a problem as the media up here wants you to believe. Still a strong asset for Canada, but it is way down on the list.
By the way, Canada has had complaints about NAFTA for years and years. Issues range from limitations enforced by the Chapter 11, to the softwood lumber dispute, to the inability to stem the sale of our resources.

Tell me: how many of you who reside in the US talk to people from Canada and Mexico (aside from me)? Do you read any of our newspapers?

No. Americans don't care about other countries.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

2003 and 2005 Clinton signed in S 900 in 1999:laugh: S 900 is the amended deregulation bill that Pelosi, Biden, Frank, Dodd all voted for //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

i realize that all those names are synonomous with moron, but you keep taking my criticism of bush as a criticism of conservatism. bush did not live up to being a fiscal conservative at all.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

No. Americans don't care about other countries.

sure we do. mexico has cancun.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Here in Canada, we are such evil regulators that none of our banks are in trouble. We and Spain have pretty much the best banking systems on the planet right now.

I'd argue that what we have going on in the US is supposed to happen. I like the highs, as well as the lows our system has to offer. I just wish the govt would just quit screwing with it.

Think about it...during the boom you set extra aside for the bust, when you collect assets at fire sale prices. It's a great system.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

No. Americans don't care about other countries.

Americans do care about other countries.

People from the US of A, however, do not. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

Americans do care about other countries.
People from the US of A, however, do not. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

i think we have the greatest society on earth. ran by morons.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Americans do care about other countries.
People from the US of A, however, do not. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

You know what I meant....quibbling with semantics and the spelling of your country. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

I'd argue that what we have going on in the US is supposed to happen. I like the highs, as well as the lows our system has to offer. I just wish the govt would just quit screwing with it.
Think about it...during the boom you set extra aside for the bust, when you collect assets at fire sale prices. It's a great system.

I agree with you to an extent. If these really were capitalist countries, things would be just fine. Only problem is they're not; as long as we're doing this one foot in, one foot out bs....I prefer tighter regulation. Otherwise you get exactly what is happening in the US right now: one foot gives you growth, the other foot insures that growth with debt.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I agree with you to an extent. If these really were capitalist countries, things would be just fine. Only problem is they're not; as long as we're doing this one foot in, one foot out bs....I prefer tighter regulation. Otherwise you get exactly what is happening in the US right now: one foot gives you growth, the other foot insures that growth with debt.

Which cannot be done perpetually. I don't know of anyone I have spoken to that has a concrete idea of the "end game" of this strategy. Captialism isn't assymetric and once the government quits trying to make the payoff assymetric, the better.

What we have it not capitalism, not even well regulated capitalism. It is "regulated only during bad times" capitalism.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

i think we have the greatest society on earth. ran by morons.

How many societies have you lived in to make that judgement?

Flip, that's basically exactly the problem as I see it right now.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

Which cannot be done perpetually. I don't know of anyone I have spoken to that has a concrete idea of the "end game" of this strategy. Captialism isn't assymetric and once the government quits trying to make the payoff assymetric, the better.
What we have it not capitalism, not even well regulated capitalism. It is "regulated only during bad times" capitalism.

motivated by politics, not what's best for the capitalist system.

 

[Unholysavage 10+ year member]

Think about it...during the boom you set extra aside for the bust, when you collect assets at fire sale prices. It's a great system.

that's my plan. *IF* I keep my job, that is.

there were bumper stickers made back in the 80s in Alberta that read "Please god, give us another boom. We promise not to piss it away this time".

I seriously wonder if many people up here learned from the past this time around...

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

How many societies have you lived in to make that judgement?

show me another society where every race and creed is represented in 1 country. where you can travel from state to state within the country, and see a completely different culture. maybe i'll move there.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

that's my plan. *IF* I keep my job, that is.
there were bumper stickers made back in the 80s in Alberta that read "Please god, give us another boom. We promise not to piss it away this time".

I seriously wonder if many people up here learned from the past this time around...

Not many, unfortunately.....

Things will swing around for the province, though. They just need to ride the storm. BC and the maritimes, on the other hand....

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

show me another society where every race and creed is represented in 1 country. where you can travel from state to state within the country, and see a completely different culture. maybe i'll move there.

Look north. We are well known for our diversity (in fact, a common criticism up here is that we lack a singular identity due to the diversity of our population).

We are also much more accepting of diversity here. All I hear from US posters on this site is "Assimilate, speak our language, be like us, don't dress that way, stop that religion, etc."