Science vs. The Bible!

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Well...good point. Do you think that you will go to heaven/hell or do you think that nothing will happen whatsoever.

I think I'm going to heaven, but that's a totally different question than which do I trust. I could trust NOTHING in the bible besides going to heaven yet believe everything in every science book. see where I'm going with this?

I will say this, everyone should really ask if their religion of choice is really real or BS. I don't like ignorant faith, that's just dangerous.

 

[Synyster97XLT 10+ year member]

There's a magical pink elephant sitting next to me...prove me wrong! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Through rigorous testing, I may just as well be able to. I can't say that they don't exist, because they very well could. I can only say that it's extremely unlikely.

 

[Synyster97XLT 10+ year member]

I think I'm going to heaven, but that's a totally different question than which do I trust. I could trust NOTHING in the bible besides going to heaven yet believe everything in every science book. see where I'm going with this?

I will say this, everyone should really ask if their religion of choice is really real or BS. I don't like ignorant faith, that's just dangerous.

Doesn't believing that you're going to heaven involve some kind of blind faith to begin with? And yes, I do see where you're coming from.

 

[BigE 10+ year member]

Honestly your are just stating "bible" vs "science" but which bible are you speaking of there are many religions that have bibles. For one i believe in Jesus Christ but I don't consider myself a christian nor a catholic. As for Science nothing is 100%, such as religion, you make it as you want so it is 100%. Im not saying the whole bible is true but for every thing there is in it you can take it anyway. Just think of this in all religion there has never been someone who gave his or hers life for the religion. Only Jesus Christ is the ONLY person who gave his life for the religion. So he is in paradise. Explaining paradise is a state of mind. So believing there is nothing out there you acualy believe in something. Most of you people will quote and speak nonsense about me and the post about what I just wrote, and other will take this to heart. The people who take it to heart are the people im speaking to not the others. And im not trying to tell anyone to believen what I believen. All take care and Happy Halloween.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Doesn't believing that you're going to heaven involve some kind of blind faith to begin with? And yes, I do see where you're coming from.

blind faith I can deal with, faith is believing what you cannot see and understand. I can deal with that. I CANNOT deal with people that believe due to lack of seeing what is around them. For instance, I don't believe in dismissing other religions through acting like they don't exist and avoiding knowledge of them. That's what I mean by ignorant faith. or saying science must be lying without opening the science book. that's ignorant (ignoring). I won't stand for that.

 

[Alpine4life89 10+ year member]

Sure, we can accept what we've discovered certain things about the natural world and that there was some sort of being that was behind it all. In that sense, science and god are completely compatible.
When religion begins to make specific claims about the natural world that are directly opposed to what the best evidence indicates, then there is a contradiction between science and that specific religious claim. There, I will go with the evidence over what I consider to be a very unreliable account.

One question I would pose to you: is the burden of proof on someone to prove that a claim is false, or for the claim to be proven as true?

I just find this debate completely pointless. There is no correct answer, and there never will be.

 

[Synyster97XLT 10+ year member]

I just find this debate completely pointless. There is no correct answer, and there never will be.

It's always interesting to know what other people think, however.

 

[vfrrider 10+ year member]

Where is this 'hell' you speak of? It's neither up nor down

Just dont trust in christ, you will find it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[k_schutte 10+ year member]

So... I just talked to god and he said this thread is a joke and he knows a joke when he sees one. I mean, he did create the platipus so....

I think I am going to "dip out" of this thread... Good luck everyone

 

[vfrrider 10+ year member]

Also I wounder what the people that dont trust in christ or believe he created everything, what do they believe in to how we got here and how the world was created?

 

[k_schutte 10+ year member]

Also I wounder what the people that dont trust in christ or believe he created everything, what do they believe in to how we got here and how the world was created?

duh... that big bang thing.... There was nothing then BANG there was everything.

Neither Science nor Religion can prove everything they stand for. When it comes down to it, all you have is your faith or your microscope I guess,,,,

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Just dont trust in christ, you will find it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Do you think that is fair? Suppose someone lived by the Golden Rule as espoused by Confucius 500 years before Christ; suppose they just didn't find a good reason to believe in Christ (or even worse, they had never even heard of Christ before dying). Do you think they deserve an eternity of torture for that?

 

[Synyster97XLT 10+ year member]

Do you think that is fair? Suppose someone lived by the Golden Rule as espoused by Confucius 500 years before Christ; suppose they just didn't find a good reason to believe in Christ (or even worse, they had never even heard of Christ before dying). Do you think they deserve an eternity of torture for that?

I second that.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Do you think that is fair? Suppose someone lived by the Golden Rule as espoused by Confucius 500 years before Christ; suppose they just didn't find a good reason to believe in Christ (or even worse, they had never even heard of Christ before dying). Do you think they deserve an eternity of torture for that?

The Bible talks about the opportunity for them as well as anyone else that isn't exposed to "the Gospel" during their life //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[BigE 10+ year member]

Do you think that is fair? Suppose someone lived by the Golden Rule as espoused by Confucius 500 years before Christ; suppose they just didn't find a good reason to believe in Christ (or even worse, they had never even heard of Christ before dying). Do you think they deserve an eternity of torture for that?

It's common sense what he said, you can believen in him have faith in him and the "lord" will have remorse for you. If you clearly never heard of him there will be another time he will give that person the chance to come clean to him. As long as you have faith in the "lord" everything will be clear. For instance, plenty of people say "oh, this is stupid im not going to believen in that _ _ _ _". Well they just earn there chance. It clearly states you have your choice to choose wether you want to believen or not believen. For me I believen, I have faith in the lord. Sometimes the bible isn't all to clear what it speaks of, such as in matthews, it states "Love me more then your mother and father, and more then your children". I love Jesus but I believe it's commen sense. I clearly love my Mother more then Jesus, because she gave me life such as the lord gave me. But its human to love something more that you see daily. It's all in faith.