Say goodbye to your HD-DVD players, Blu Ray is here to stay...

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

I have a question for you guys.

The new surround formats for the HD formats sound very exciting to say the least. However, even when I buy a HDTV and settle on a HD (hd-dvd or bluray) format I'm still NOT going out and buying a new receiver or PRE/PRO just for the decoding of these new formats. Sure, the standard DTS and DD still sound good but why upgrade to a HD format and NOT enjoy the next generation surround sound?? Ok, now to my question. Do some of these new players decode Dolby Ture HD and DTS-HD Master Audio and send it out via the 5.1 or 7.1 analog outputs?? I have pre ins on my receiver so this would NOT be a problem as far as compatiblity. I would also of course bypass any processing by my reciever and do a pass thru straight to my preouts to my other amps. This has me intrigued because I don't see any manufacturers making a standalone surround processor like they did in the old days.

From what I understand...No. You would need a Reciever capable of HDMI 1.3 to decode the audio signal from the players.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

From what I understand...No. You would need a Reciever capable of HDMI 1.3 to decode the audio signal from the players.

What if a player decodes that signal already though?? Said player should be able to send that decoded audio out via the analog outputs shouldn't it??

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

From what Ive read...the players only send out the TrueHD lossless audio material over LPCM or Bitstream...

I don't think there is a player that decodes it yet.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

I stand corrected...partially

HDMI 1.3 Audio
Even though there is new a crop of HDMI 1.3 receivers coming out this fall, in many cases you won't need HDMI 1.3 to take advantage of lossless audio such as TrueHD. HD DVD players all have a TrueHD decoder and can output lossless audio via multi-channel PCM over HDMI (MPCM). Utilizing that requires a receiver with HDMI and the ability to handle at least 5.1 MPCM over HDMI. Many Blu-ray movies have PCM soundtracks, which also won't require any receiver side decoding.

So it apears that a few HD players have come out that can decode the HDaudio... but it appears that they only send it out via PCM over HDMI.

 

[livinlegend 10+ year member]

To be totally honest I thought this thread was going to turn into a fanboi flame war between Xbox360 and PS3 fans.

PS3 has fans? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Seriously what a ****ing shitty system, and I'm not saying that cause I own a 360 - I don't. PS3 is a joke fanboys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

PS3 has fans? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Seriously what a ****ing shitty system, and I'm not saying that cause I own a 360 - I don't. PS3 is a joke fanboys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif

Well, it's kind of unfair to say that. PS3 is supposedly going to be having their big breakout year with a fuck ton of the "promised and hyped" games during it's inception. After this year we'll definitely know if it's going to hold it's ground or not. Sony has shown a history being able to roll with the punches. I have a PS2 and a Gamecube and have NO intentions of going with a new console for quite a while yet. But I have a feeling it will be a PS3 at that time especially seeing how Bluray is starting to gain some momentum in the hidef market.

But, I never have and never will jump on any new format until the dust settles.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Wow, the A3 is $249.99 here.

The A3 is junk! My parents went with the HD-DVD scheme first because they thought it was a bigger market. So they picked that up for right around the price you mentioned and when they played it, keep coming up in error codes and what not, not to mention how god for sakin slow it was. I can see why they were that cheap. Must just be the A3's? I don't know, cause I have the A1 and works perfectly fine, cause my moms one sister bought an A3 as well and does the samething. Buyer beware on that model.

They ended up taking it back and going Blue Ray and went with the Panasonic and by far IMO looks to be the best blu ray player I have seen to date. They paid 449 for it, but looks better and is faster than the HD players. Also much clearer than my Sony PS3 player on the same excat TV.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

PS3 has fans? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Seriously what a ****ing shitty system, and I'm not saying that cause I own a 360 - I don't. PS3 is a joke fanboys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif

Dumbass much?

I have both systems and I like both for certain games that come out for each one. I don't have a lot of time for either one and more than likely will be selling one of the units being I just got my PS3 not to long ago thanks to the fiance and when it comes that time, I will be unloading my Xbox360. Not gonna say I don't like it, cause it has served it's purpose, but to me, you just sound like an xbox360 fanboy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Well, it's kind of unfair to say that. PS3 is supposedly going to be having their big breakout year with a fuck ton of the "promised and hyped" games during it's inception. After this year we'll definitely know if it's going to hold it's ground or not. Sony has shown a history being able to roll with the punches. I have a PS2 and a Gamecube and have NO intentions of going with a new console for quite a while yet. But I have a feeling it will be a PS3 at that time especially seeing how Bluray is starting to gain some momentum in the hidef market.
But, I never have and never will jump on any new format until the dust settles.

I was the sameway about letting the dust settle and then go diving in. I have changed quite a bit, lol! I commend you on waiting, cause I have spent, well me and my soon to be wife have spent quite a bit of money on the HD TV's and both HD-DVD and the PS3, not to mention the surround sound. It gets expensive real quick!

Also I have all my playstations, that once in a while I break out and play, lol!

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

The A3 is junk! My parents went with the HD-DVD scheme first because they thought it was a bigger market. So they picked that up for right around the price you mentioned and when they played it, keep coming up in error codes and what not, not to mention how god for sakin slow it was. I can see why they were that cheap. Must just be the A3's? I don't know, cause I have the A1 and works perfectly fine, cause my moms one sister bought an A3 as well and does the samething. Buyer beware on that model.
They ended up taking it back and going Blue Ray and went with the Panasonic and by far IMO looks to be the best blu ray player I have seen to date. They paid 449 for it, but looks better and is faster than the HD players. Also much clearer than my Sony PS3 player on the same excat TV.

Did they even bother doing the updates? You do know these players need updates to play certain movies and use certain features. You have to hook it up to the internet or burn them to a disk.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Dumbass much?
I have both systems and I like both for certain games that come out for each one. I don't have a lot of time for either one and more than likely will be selling one of the units being I just got my PS3 not to long ago thanks to the fiance and when it comes that time, I will be unloading my Xbox360. Not gonna say I don't like it, cause it has served it's purpose, but to me, you just sound like an xbox360 fanboy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

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I hate some 360 fanbois //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

PS3 is 100 dollars more than any other blu ray player and has 3x the capabilities of a standard blu ray player , //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif If your going blu ray you'd have to be retarded to not buy the ps3

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

PS3 is 100 dollars more than any other blu ray player and has 3x the capabilities of a standard blu ray player , //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif If your going blu ray you'd have to be retarded to not buy the ps3

Just curious, what feature would the PS3 have that a basic BR player doesn't?

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

PS3 is 100 dollars more than any other blu ray player and has 3x the capabilities of a standard blu ray player , //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif If your going blu ray you'd have to be retarded to not buy the ps3

I don't know about that as me and my parents have the same TV, Sony Bravia XB5and she has a stand alone Blu Ray in the Panasonic and I have the PS3 and their's looks a little better, not like night and day, just seems clearer to me. I will say it is almost to clear, lol!

I am perfectly happy with the PS3 though.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Just curious, what feature would the PS3 have that a basic BR player doesn't?

the ability to play games, durr.