Running Active!

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

Cool, just giving you an option to gain a little more experience from someone who definitely knows something on the subject.

thanks man, ill definintely join that forum and ask some questions

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

well can i ask why your running active?

for the SQs of course //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398166

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371238

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386826

who's teh retard?

you're paying attention to wrong thing there..

just because i dont listen to you when it comes to deadener, does not mean i am not going to take other advice. i am here to learn, and just because we disagree on deadener, does not mean that i am not open to opinions, especially a topic like this seeing you are running active.

Foxy used to be in the deadening industry FYI, much more credentials compared to me and running active w/ scissors. If you wouldn't listen to him when it comes to sound dampening, then I don't see any reason to take my advice when it comes to activenessivity. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif .

anyhow, what Fox said is the most logical. Just experiment with what you already have. All you'll have to do is change some wiring. no new baffles for new mids, or finding a way to mount those large format tweets.

As long as you bandpass those mids at a safe range then you'll be fine. The slope will also be a factor for that 'safe range.'

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[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

thanks man, ill definintely join that forum and ask some questions

no. search/read. There's practically nothing that hasn't been discussed to death already.

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

for the SQs of course //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398166

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371238

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386826

you're paying attention to wrong thing there..

Foxy used to be in the deadening industry FYI, much more credentials compared to me and running active w/ scissors. If you wouldn't listen to him when it comes to sound dampening, then I don't see any reason to take my advice when it comes to activenessivity. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif .

anyhow, what Fox said is the most logical. Just experiment with what you already have. All you'll have to do is change some wiring. no new baffles for new mids, or finding a way to mount those large format tweets.

As long as you bandpass those mids at a safe range then you'll be fine. The slope will also be a factor for that 'safe range.'

because i am not closeminded about everything, i am seriously here to learn. well i dont have baffles right now, see long story short, before i learned how easy to install car audio was, i paid a shop $400 to install my comps, sub, 2 amps and wiring (not my current setup, my old one which conisted of - ed 6000.v1 comps, 13ov.2, nine.2x and a pioneer 4 channel).

also the guy chopped up my stock door holes and made a mess, i got a thread in the IL section about it. but i do have baffles, and i need to put an attachment on the back so it can fit, since the holes are bigger than the baffles.

But i wanted to mount the mids on the outside using dls grills, so thats not an issue. the tweeters, the whole should be big enough for the magnet, just screw it. so redoing my setup wont be as hard, and i like experimenting and working on my car.

no. search/read. There's practically nothing that hasn't been discussed to death already.

got it!

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

no. search/read. There's practically nothing that hasn't been discussed to death already.

Truth! I have been a member there for a while and only have 27 post. Lurking and searching is the best thing hands down. There are many threads on every subject you could imagine.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

I actually have a pair of those tweets, that i've never touched. too lazy and i'm lovin' how the HDS tweets sound.

The HDS tweets feel to have much better build quality compared to the DX25s. dual mag vs single. solid metal flange vs. dinky plastic. I can't compare the sound since i haven't heard the dx25s yet.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Where do people get this idea that once you "go active" you're going to blow speakers left and right? I've never blown any out of all the speakers I've tried and I'm as reckless of a hack as anyone. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif But I don't gain-up at the amps so I guess that probably has something to do with it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

And an active system is not inherently better sounding than one that uses passive crossovers. If you hear a great sounding system, you're hearing a great sounding car put together by someone that utilized the space very well and probably spend hours and hours and hours tweaking and tuning it.

And I'd say stay away from HAT cars, they sound "colored," "sterile" and "off." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Where do people get this idea that once you "go active" you're going to blow speakers left and right? I've never blown any out of all the speakers I've tried and I'm as reckless of a hack as anyone. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif But I don't gain-up at the amps so I guess that probably has something to do with it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif
And an active system is not inherently better sounding than one that uses passive crossovers. If you hear a great sounding system, you're hearing a great sounding car put together by someone that utilized the space very well and probably spend hours and hours and hours tweaking and tuning it.

And I'd say stay away from HAT cars, they sound "colored," "sterile" and "off." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

IMO, it's a passive indirect way of saying they're stoopid.

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

okay so with my dls comps, since the crossover point is 4500, for the tweet i would go up, and the mid i would go down?

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

okay so with my dls comps, since the crossover point is 4500, for the tweet i would go up, and the mid i would go down?

My guess is that you're limited to 3.15, 4 or 5khz around that point for both the tweeter HP and mid LP.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

try to get T/S params from DLS for mids and tweets.

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

okay found them, thought i was never going to find them lol

Woofer size 6,5" / 16,5 cm

Impedance 4 ohm

Outer diameter of woofer 165 mm / 6,5"

Mounting depth 72 mm / 2,83"

Magnet size 100 mm / 3,94"

Mounting hole 140 mm / 5,5"

Power handling capacity 100 W RMS

Max power handling capacity 160 W

Frequency range 45 - 5000 Hz

Sensitivity 87 dB

Fs 52,2 Hz

Re 3 Ohm

Qms 3,52

Vas 12,53

liter Vas 0,44

Cuft Qes 0,56

Qts 0,49

Sd 106 cm²

BL 4,48

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

try to get T/S params from DLS for mids and tweets.

true that.

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

my bad lol, this is all i could find

http://www.dls.se/en/car/prod.html?produkt=en_144

Impedance 4 ohm

Power handling capacity 50 W RMS

Max power handling capacity 80 W

Frequency range 1.500 - 20.000 Hz

Fs - Resonant frequency 1200 Hz

Rec. crossover point 4 - 5 kHz

Sensitivity 93 dB (1W/1m

Magnet size 28 mm (1,1")

Outer diameter 60 mm (2,36")

Mounting depth 18 mm ( 0,71")

Mounting hole 48 mm (1,89")

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

I would cross the tweets lower than 2.5khz

and keep the mids above 80hz.

twice the FS. read up grasshoppa