Ron Paul

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

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[HitManSE 10+ year member]

OOOOooo right!

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

Ron Paul is an idiot... he obviously has no idea how our economy works or the important function our central bank serves... I watched his speech on his website and about 3/4 of it was great but he said some REALLLLLLLLLY ignorant things about the economy and international trade that puts him in the gutter with guilliani's gun controlling ***....
So far Mitt Romney hasn't distressed me...

Whoaaa.... Acidic.... slow down, take a breath. I went back and read several of your posts, and I have to disagree whole-heartedly. I don't know where you got your doctorate in economics, or what neo-con is convincing you of misunderstandings, but Ron Paul is a 72 year old medical doctor, military veteran in the Air Force, 10-term elected Congressman, economics scholar, and multiple published book author on foreign policy and economics.

While I, personally, may not be an expert, coming across a man who truly says what he means and means what he says with a proven track-record longer than I've been alive, earns my trust that he knows what he's talking about, along with my full and enthusiastic support. He's not a politician by trade, like all of the other candidates, with the exception of possibly Kucinich. But Kucinich is a pacifist and I don't believe he'd take care of business if some other country threatened us. Ron Paul would (with Congressional approval -- NOT just U.N. sanction). Plus, Kucinich seems to be 'ok' with the "take care of me, gov't (with my neighbors' kids' income taxes)" welfare-state (of mind).

The Federal Reserve is as "federal" as Federal Express. It is a private company with no oversight or control by our own government. It is an entity that exists outside of the boundaries of the United States and its laws. It is unconstitutional and was created unconstitutionally in 1913. Thus, the IRS that defends the Fed Reserve is also unconstitutional. Having Ben Bernanke make interest rate adjustments for bank loans, is not a way of stabilizing our economy, it is simply a way to keep the current value reduction of the dollar to not completely collapse in an afternoon. When Ron Paul says "they PRINT money", he doesn't mean the paper that comes out of the f'ing ATM. Paper "money" is less than 1% of our economy. He means they "create" it. Loan it. Write a check backed by nothing. It is a credit that the Fed Reserve simply makes up. The "money" doesn't exist, and every time they pump more fake funds into the economy, the value of the dollar depreciates. They call that "inflation", but that's a fake word too. Products are cheaper to make over time, so why do they cost more? Because the dollar is worth LESS. Since 1913, $1.00 has depreciated to roughly $0.04 (not a typo'). It will eventually be worth zero and we won't even be able to borrow from China and Japan at that point because what loan officer would want to take payment with worthless credits? All of our income taxes (less than a third of our current federal budget, by the way) wouldn't even be able to pay the daily interest payments on loans we currently hold (to the Fed Res). We're almost there now. What happens when my kid is old enough to pay taxes? Who will his "master" be? This isn't conspiracy theory crap. This is really what's up. People don't talk about it because we've all been trained to trust that our government has control of the situation.

Now, hypothetically... if America was up against a wall financially, in debt to the Federal Reserve (which is where Congress gets ALLLLLL of its money on loan), how could they NOT file bankruptcy like we forced Russia to do? Hmmm... My guess would be, they'd need to unite other countries with ours and share a common set of rules, military, and monetary system. North American Union anyone? Well, that one may be teetering on the brink of conspiracy theory, but we all know it's in the works.

Anyway, before spatting out the word "idiot" about Ron Paul's understanding of the Federal Reserve and its effects on economics, you may find this documentary interesting. It's about 1 hour, and not Hollywood-level professional-grade, but it does help to understand: FIAT Empire. Another good one is "Money as Debt"

An overview of Ron Paul: A Man for all Seasons (45 min.)

Cheers,

-HiAmp

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I have to agree with Acidic Dreams, Ron Paul's economic strategy seems very awkward and weird to me also.

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

I have to agree with Acidic Dreams, Ron Paul's economic strategy seems very awkward and weird to me also.

Check out that documentary I linked in the previous post dude. It'll really help to understand how the current system is.

I think you'll agree that finding an alternative means to our economic system is not only a good idea, but essential.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

I was going to say this earlier also. The Federal Reserve is not "Federal". It is privatley owned by shareholders. The Federal government borrows money from the Federal Reserve on loans, which it has to pay back with intrest. Foreign countries own shares of the bank. China is a large shareholder.

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

If if was a liberal i wouldnt be loving this vid http://youtube.com/watch?v=FJM4h09UJz8

i dont have an answer to your last question because I ask the same question all the time.

you just support his right to snort tons of cocaine and make videos of himself ranting... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Check out that documentary I linked in the previous post dude. It'll really help to understand how the current system is.
I think you'll agree that finding an alternative means to our economic system is not only a good idea, but essential.

Not that it's not very important, but doing it as suddenly and drastic as Ron Paul wants to do it could lead to some serious economic depressions if the right precautions aren't taken.

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

Not that it's not very important, but doing it as suddenly and drastic as Ron Paul wants to do it could lead to some serious economic depressions if the right precautions aren't taken.

I think that's the misunderstanding that makes most people nervous about the truth that RP speaks. They assume he'd try to pull the tablecloth out from under the setting, but that's simply not the case, nor is it even possible, even for the President. The reality is, and you can verify this by looking back at his own speeches (don't have one off the top of my head at the moment)... he knows you can't just change the systems that are in place. You can't just turn off Social Security, welfare, section 8 housing, income tax, etc.

You have to implement parallel alternatives and let the weaker (existing) ones dissolve on their own gradually over time. Give the young people like you the choice whether A: you'd like to loan the government fixed deductions from your income at zero percent yeild to feed the pyramid scheme that is Social Security and hope there's some left when you aren't earning an income, or B: invest that money in smart IRAs or mutual funds or your choice at a higher APR than inflation and actually be rich of your own wealth at retirement. Think about it. Even a short term 20 years @ $1000/month in a 12% yeild mutual fund will net you $1 Million dollars in savings. If you draw just 8% interest from that $1M, that's $80,000 per year. That's a pretty healthy retirement. Some could do more. Some could do less, but in the end, it's still better than SS is capable of providing anyone. I think I know which choice you'd pick.

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

you just support his right to snort tons of cocaine and make videos of himself ranting... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

hahaha hes from my neighborhood and one of the calmest people around. The yelling is his way of making it entertaining. His little ranting videos get him appearances on Hannity here and there so say what you will.

Bob on Britney http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2cT7qWByw hahahaha YEEAHH BOB!

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I was reading the school newspaper today, and on Clemson campus, Ron Paul is favored at like 42%, the next closest being Obama at 14%. Figured it was a good sign of things to come.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

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no Hillary please

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

I am going to keep my POV to myself and let this thing play out.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I am going to keep my POV to myself and let this thing play out.

I'm would be quite interested in hearing your view on this. Doesn't hurt to try and look at it from a different direction.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

Media still has a huge blackout on him, ghey.

If it comes down to Hillary & Giuliani, im changing my sig to "We're F%$ked '08"

I hate politics.