Replacing "old school" car-fi.

[moosepucky]

Does any speaker company make and sell JUST drivers any more?

Back in the dark ages (1980) I put in a system that is now past due for replacement because of cone surround failure/deterioration.

The system is:

Concord head

Alpine power amp

5 1/4" rockford fosgate cone

4" rockford fosgate cone

Alpine soft dome + piezo tweeter

All speakers are door mounted

I made the xover using wound coils and mylar caps.

I am having difficulty finding just speakers (without xovers tweets or coax units).

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[R/T Pimp 10+ year member]

Sure check out partsexpress.com

 

[revrider1 5,000+ posts]

Wow, now thats very Old School...

 

[BigE 10+ year member]

this is the god father of systems you

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

madisound.com as well.

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

I use to want one of those Concord decks back in the day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[9seconlives 10+ year member]

I use to want one of those Concord decks back in the day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I remember when those concords came out and were the sh*t too!!..........ahhhhhhhh the memories...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[moosepucky]

madisound.com as well.

Sure check out partsexpress.com

Thanx for the point in the right direction!!!!! Kid in a candy store //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

HELP TIME

I will be replacing the 4" and 6" drivers in the door.

After looking at a lot of things I have settled on the Morel cast basket 6"

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=8439

Max depth on the 6" cut out location is 3" and at that the magnet rubs on the outside door skin (I knocked off a magnet from the 1st set of speakers.. EPI satellites that I disassembled and used in the door). This Morel 6" is only 2 1/2" so some wiggle room exists with it. I know that I initially listed the driver as 5 1/4 but once everything came out it turned out to be a 6" (surprising what 25 years will do to your memory of what you did)

I am thinking about one of their 4" but not sure which.

They list this one as a midrange (68-5k hz)

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8441

And this one as a woofer (75-3k hz)

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8442

Max depth that I can use on the 4" is 2" deep. Window glass and window crank prohibit anything deeper than that (yep... hand crank windows).

The old Alpine tweeters will be reused as they are a silk soft dome and a ribbon super tweet and still in perfect working order.

I plan on burying everything in dynamat xtreme. There is a fair amount of sound deadening on the door skins already but more can't hurt.

So........

Am I looking at the wrong stuff?!?!?!?!

ALL opinions are welcomed... and I expect everyone to try to change my mind //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

Thanks AGAIN

 

[PaulD 10+ year member]

I use to have an old Concord 516, they were a poor man's Alpine.

You may find the tweeters have lost a little zing in last 25 years, hard to tell though without comparing them. You might also consider going active instead of the old passives - easier to tune.

 

[moosepucky]

OK.... I am gong to Houdini this old thread and see if anyone can give me advice on a problem that has popped up in the door speaker install.

The Morels fit just fine in the old cut outs after I did some fabrication to the door frames.

After working for a few weeks the speaker baffle I instaled to protect the open voice coil Morel 4" midranges from getting wet started rubbing against the window. Normally this would not be a major event EXCEPT I have window tint (or did have it before it was rubbed off).....

I have shimmed out the speaker as far as I can go and the window crank clears the grill by about 1/32" so shimming more is not an option if I want to use the windows (which I do)

So now for the advice part........

It does not look like I can use the XTC foam baskets because they are too deep.

What else is there that will protect this open voice coil Morel ?

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

If you want Morel mids you can save some money by buying these Phoenix Gold 6.5" Morel made mids (and they're 4 ohms, which is better for car use).......

http://www.woofersetc.com/p6218/Ti6-MID--Phoenix-Gold-65"-Titanium-Elite-Midrange-speakers-(Pair).htm

 

[moosepucky]

If you want Morel mids you can save some money by buying these Phoenix Gold 6.5" Morel made mids (and they're 4 ohms, which is better for car use).......

Already have the 4" morels and 6" morels.

My problem is with the XTC baffling being too deep.

I need another suggestion/idea for a way to enclose the speaker to keep the water out of the open voice coil.

Everything sounds GREAT.... I just can't roll down the window on the driver's side //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

Most people cut the flat bottom off those XTC baffles, leaving it open at the bottom.

It still shields the vc that way, and it prevents the 'tin can' effect that the closed XTC baffles are known to cause in some installs because the driver thinks its in a tiny enclosure.

 

[moosepucky]

Most people cut the flat bottom off those XTC baffles, leaving it open at the bottom.
It still shields the vc that way, and it prevents the 'tin can' effect that the closed XTC baffles are known to cause in some installs because the driver thinks its in a tiny enclosure.

I have the bottom open on all of them. The problem is with the depth.

I'm searching for some other type of cover. Plastic half sized.... anything

This attached pic shows where the window has rubbed the back off of the baffle (at the top)

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

Find Some sheet metel, make an arc and make your brackets to hold it over the mid. That way you can make it whatever depth works for you and have a better sound.