reloading some speaker cabinets

[brandontw 10+ year member]

i have some speaker cabinets full of crappy old speakers, and im going to empty them out and put some new speaks in em' for my room. I am on a heck of a budget, so tell me what you think of this idea:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=260-174

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-260

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=270-050

total: 61.30 for both speaks.

it doesnt look like i could get much else for that much, except for mini's and cheap *** pa speakers. i just have a 100w per channel sony reciever.

i borrowed some yamaha pa speakers a while ago and have been longing for more than i have ever scince i lost them.

but if this idea is going to sound like shit then i might not want to bother.

i have heard some really shitty pa speakers, and i dont want these to be like that.

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[brandontw 10+ year member]

here is what i found but i think these are pretty bad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Gemini-10-Trapezoid-Speaker-300Watt_W0QQitemZ7349508235QQcategoryZ47094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-8-PA-DJ-Pro-Audio-Speakers-150-W-NEW-Speaker_W0QQitemZ7349715840QQcategoryZ47094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/219-PRO-AUDIO-Stage-Monitor-Set-Pair-DJ-KJ-Speakers-NR_W0QQitemZ7349451675QQcategoryZ47094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I wouldn't go that route.

And please re-size your signature image to fit the allowed dimensions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

What route would you go.

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

actual home audio drivers

Umm.. ok let me try again:

woofers:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-462

Crossovers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boston-Acoustics-2-Way-Cross-Over-Crossover_W0QQitemZ5800806411QQcategoryZ3276QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tweets:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-476

total: 98.5$

P.S. Sorry about the sig, last time i was very active on here that rule wasnt in effect.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

P.S. Sorry about the sig, last time i was very active on here that rule wasnt in effect.

I know, I hadn't seen you around in a while...so I tried to be nice //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Are you trying to match your Xovers to the components being used? Or just taking a shotgun approach to everything?

Look - if you're on a budget, why not get rid of the tweeters and crossovers and go full range? You could pick up a pair of Fostex 4.5's for a little over $60, or get a pair of Tang Bands from PE for probably cheaper. Why make things more complicated than needed?

Put the effort into box design - MDF is cheaper than crossover parts. Tang Band drivers in a transmission line or folded horn would give excellent results, and be pretty cheap to boot.

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

Oh, I’m just shot gunning, I really am sort of a newb to home audio, but I know my car stuff fairly well. I just want to get a pair of speaks that will sound decent pretty loud, with good bass and low distortion. Like I said I fell in love with those Yamaha PA speaks just cause I could crank em’ and they liked it, you don’t get that with regular home audio speaks from what I’ve seen.

I have been really busy lately, so I’m trying to be lazy with this project. I usually put a lot of effort into my stereos, I worked hard on the box for my 4-10's, designed it in AutoCAD, did the calculations, ect. And it was worth it I guess. But I have NO time cause I have work and school so I was hoping I could just put new drivers in the cabinets I have laying around and call it good, but its becoming clear that this approach may not work out, so I am open to suggestions.

So puting all of my dumb ideas aside, is there a way to get what I want for ~100$

-2 speaks

-at least 100RMS each

-good bass

-loud

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

dude, PA drivers are not suited for home, hence they are a different category. go with some HIVI or Morel drivers, they are excellent.

im not trying to be stubborn, but why arent they suited for home?

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

mainly because PS drivers need to make ALOT of sound to cover alot of ears, thus they aren't as detailed and warm as regular HA drivers. however, like everything, there are exceptions to this.

i think thats why i like them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

i like that they dont get soft at high volumes, i dont miss the warmth much.

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

Usually i would too, but 600 dollars for a pair of B&W speaks that wont go above half volume without distoring painfully isnt cool to me - not when getting some decent pa speaks eliminates your need for a sub and gives you more sound and top end clarity at any level.

I dunno, me and my dad are both amature audiophiles if that makes any sense, and we both get frustrated because we like to listen to music very loud at times, and it sucks not to be able to. But at the same time we appreciate the warmth and clarity speakers such as warfdale, and b&w can provide, thats why my dad bought them. but its only good at low to mid levels. i feel like im babbling now... im gonna go.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

What about a line array?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

hmm suit urself, but i'll take my nice harmonics anyday //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

What do you know of harmonics, solid-state boy...

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[brandontw 10+ year member]

What about a line array?

what about it? tell me more

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

if tubes were the be all end all, then they wouldn't be an obsolete technology //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
sure ive heard a few tubes that are excellent, but for the price and the requiremnts of everything else that you need to have even medium sound off of them...they just ain't worth it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Heh. Why not talk about things you actually know something about?

what about it? tell me more

That's an example of a line array. A whole bunch of speakers connected together - so it's extremely efficient and has a ton of displacement. Very good vertical dispersion, but the off-axis response to the sides isn't that great. Doesn't take much power to get one of these loud...

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

never did say that i knew of the technology

sure ive heard a few tubes that are excellent,

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Stop while you're behind, please.