re auido vs jl audio

[MSW Danny 10+ year member]

Md1d?

 

[BringDaBoom 10+ year member]

How is that stupid, it's a fact about they having the same thing for years and they have no top street competitors here at all. Show me the last time they changed the "W" series and only at 1000W. Maybe you love them and that's your flavor, everyone is entitled to theirs. It's a forum

Ever heard of the term "if it aint broke don't fix it"? If you look up hard data charts for the performance of JL's subs, in their respective categories not many brands can compete. There are some, but not many.

You are correct, sound and taste is subjective, but physical performance (I.E. BL charts, etc.) is not.

The W cone hasn'e been "re-designed" or "re-modeled" because quite frankly, it doesn't need to. It does what it was intened to do,and JL has not found something in which to change to make it better. If they had, it would be out.

To say they haven't because "they've dropped the ball" or "haven't gotten with the times" is ignorant because you're suggesting that a company that has been one of the leaders of Subwoofer and speaker technology for the better part of a decade (hence the numerous engineering and design patents) has just decided to quit and not continue to strive forward. That would be business *******.

 

[Telegon80 10+ year member]

How is that stupid, it's a fact about they having the same thing for years and they have no top street competitors here at all. Show me the last time they changed the "W" series and only at 1000W. Maybe you love them and that's your flavor, everyone is entitled to theirs. It's a forum

W series?

dude ignorance at its best. the W is for the patented W shaped cone. and why would they change it. I've seen the JL speakers compared to plenty of products including RE and the results are laughable. the JL engineering is why the product is superior and why it costs good money, because they actually put thought into the product, not just release a bunch of crap hoping it works okay for a long time.

 

[Deephitters Mag 10+ year member]

Ever heard of the term "if it aint broke don't fix it"? If you look up hard data charts for the performance of JL's subs, in their respective categories not many brands can compete. There are some, but not many.
You are correct, sound and taste is subjective, but physical performance (I.E. BL charts, etc.) is not.

The W cone hasn'e been "re-designed" or "re-modeled" because quite frankly, it doesn't need to. It does what it was intened to do,and JL has not found something in which to change to make it better. If they had, it would be out.

To say they haven't because "they've dropped the ball" or "haven't gotten with the times" is ignorant because you're suggesting that a company that has been one of the leaders of Subwoofer and speaker technology for the better part of a decade (hence the numerous engineering and design patents) has just decided to quit and not continue to strive forward. That would be business *******.

Sir that point I can respect but to have people believing they are the best sub in the planet, I don't think so. 1000W sub at $600-700 range is ridiculous. I can only speak for this area and having the same "design and technology" has hurt them here and it's more than a fact. I do remember when they were dominate in the shops but the tide has changed but to each his own.

 

[dadydolas 10+ year member]

v that avatar is hilarious

and i don't think buying new is such a bad idea with alot of brands. especially since alot of car audio holds it's value rather well

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

Sir that point I can respect but to have people believing they are the best sub in the planet, I don't think so. 1000W sub at $600-700 range is ridiculous. I can only speak for this area and having the same "design and technology" has hurt them here and it's more than a fact. I do remember when they were dominate in the shops but the tide has changed but to each his own.

power ratings arent everything my friend. efficiency is always a good thing... ya know get louder with less wattage...

 

[dadydolas 10+ year member]

telegon i respectfully disagree with that opinion

and what w shaped cone do you mean? link plz

jus fmi

 

[Deephitters Mag 10+ year member]

ok, I guess I could be here debating all night about this subject but thank you for the enlightening discussion that I will marinate tonight

 

[OldSchoolBass-G 10+ year member]

DO RE Se's for sealed Sx's for ported apps.Both stomp everything JL!!!

 

[dadydolas 10+ year member]

it's actually a shame to me that jl has gotten to the point now where it's so expensive many can't afford it.

i think they make quality equipment, but i believe they have forgotten about the customer and gone big biz

 

[cblaze 10+ year member]

re ftw

 

[BringDaBoom 10+ year member]

Sir that point I can respect but to have people believing they are the best sub in the planet, I don't think so. 1000W sub at $600-700 range is ridiculous. I can only speak for this area and having the same "design and technology" has hurt them here and it's more than a fact. I do remember when they were dominate in the shops but the tide has changed but to each his own.

And you would be absolutely correct. Anyone stating that they are is equally just as wrong. There is no "best" when it comes to car audio. Certain brands and products outperform others in certain areas. That "niche", where that product falls, is what drives the sale.

For JL, their niche is "one of the leaders in subwoofer/speaker engineering and innovation", and SQ that can also get pretty loud to most everyday folks. Not insanely loud, not knocking down walls at SPL or DB drags, but loud enough for the average joe and/or audiophile.

In those respects, they excel. And again... The W cone may be 5-6 years old, but the design works the best the way it is. Had there been something to improve on it, they would have done it. Why would a company spend time, money and effort to come up with something for the sake of coming up with it to say "It's new" when it's not and won't improve on the design? Anyone that canot appreciate that fact and will dismiss JL products because of it, doesn't have an appreciation of the technology and the fact that it's the best it can be right now. It's withstood the test of time.

There's nothing wrong in that thinking, hence why you are free to look else where for another brand. If you're not interested in any of those things that JL offers, and want a speaker that sound good TO YOU and/or loud TO YOU at a lower cost, then by all means go ahead. You wouldn't be anymore or less wrong than someone who wants what a JL sub offers.

Are there things that an RE does better thana JL? Yes. Are there things that a JL does better than an RE. Yes. Each has their own set of features that distinguish them and bring different options to the table

 

[dadydolas 10+ year member]

after all a subwoofer is science, but you have alot to draw on. that's why the basic design hasn't changed much in the last 20 years

 

[dadydolas 10+ year member]

bdaboom who is that on your avatar?

 

[cblaze 10+ year member]

i say re cuz jl is just crazy on the prices