pyle

[Raven 10+ year member]

lol i wont burn my money on that stuff. sundown is a fad like fi and dd. wont spend the money on it. i like to try out stuff nobody has

Fi, DD, and Sundown all bust their *** to keep to that "fad" status. I understand the desire to stray from the norm (I am the only declared AuraSound fanboy on the forum so I can relate.) but generic ebay woofers aren't the way to go IMO.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

i never said there was anything wrong with thier products and i know why its a fad. im not the new kid on the block.

and i own NON generic woofers. i guess i just enjoy making cheap woofers loud and sound halfway decent doing it.

it makes it better for the people with limited amounts of money to actually compete up with people that have more money to spend. knowing that cheap can get loud but i wont lie and say they wont die and such. but thats why you test before you judge a woofer.

as soon as some people say ma audio... they say over rated junk.... and ect for all the other brands in the same boat.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

i never said there was anything wrong with thier products and i know why its a fad. im not the new kid on the block.
and i own NON generic woofers. i guess i just enjoy making cheap woofers loud and sound halfway decent doing it.

it makes it better for the people with limited amounts of money to actually compete up with people that have more money to spend.

there are budget woofers that aren't crap woofers, such as pyle,lanzar,volfenhag,etc.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

there are budget woofers that aren't crap woofers, such as pyle,lanzar,volfenhag,etc.

im just talking about ones people havent tested. but im talking about being able to keep up in spl with other expensive woofers but they would more and likely sound like poo compared.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

im just talking about ones people havent tested. but im talking about being able to keep up in spl with other expensive woofers but they would more and likely sound like poo compared.

ok. i get that. it's for fun. but, why recommend crap woofers to people who are going to use them for music, just to advance a personal agenda?

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

no because not ALL cheap woofers sound like crap. alot of it has to do with install. the correct install u can have a nice sounding cheap woofer and even a loud decent sounding woofer.

but yes its for those budget systems for people who are cheap ***'s or have little money for quality gear. why not help out the people with lesser budgets instead of talking down to them as if they are losers because they run certain gear.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

no because not ALL cheap woofers sound like crap. alot of it has to do with install. the correct install u can have a nice sounding cheap woofer and even a loud decent sounding woofer.
but yes its for those budget systems for people who are cheap ***'s or have little money for quality gear. why not help out the people with lesser budgets instead of talking down to them as if they are losers because they run certain gear.

noone talked down anyone. a 150 watt pioneer will outdo that budget crap all day. and the pioneer is a 50$ sub.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

ok but why is it when people say they have so much money they just say hey save up and spend 350 for this Fi sub or AQ sub??? why dont they just say hey.. u have this much money this is what u can get. and this is what u should do to make it get loud and sound good?

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

ok but why is it when people say they have so much money they just say hey save up and spend 350 for this Fi sub or AQ sub??? why dont they just say hey.. u have this much money this is what u can get. and this is what u should do to make it get loud and sound good?

FI, as an example, can get loud, keep it's sound quality, and last 10 times as long as a budget sub. pyle, on the other hand, misinforms their power ratings, sounds like poop at high volumes, and will not last long.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

thats not what im saying...... i am saying this guy might have 150 dollars to spend on subs.... not enough to get Fi....... so people say save up to get Fi.... what if this guy cant save and he just came across 150 and wants woofers like NOW....

people on the forums should learn to say hey u should get these for this price. and put it in this type of enclosure... give specs and such to help the person out.

Fi was just an example cuz i see it all the time...

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

thats not what im saying...... i am saying this guy might have 150 dollars to spend on subs.... not enough to get Fi....... so people say save up to get Fi.... what if this guy cant save and he just came across 150 and wants woofers like NOW....
people on the forums should learn to say hey u should get these for this price. and put it in this type of enclosure... give specs and such to help the person out.

Fi was just an example cuz i see it all the time...

did you miss the post about the 50$ pioneer? better than pyle, or any other budget brand, for about the same price. why recommend that crap, when you could recommend a decent brand? that 18 you recommended above is an 8 ohm PA speaker, and a crappy one at that. why do that to someone?

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

i wasnt recommending... where did i say hey u should get this??? no i did not..

and thats what im saying... suggest that pioneer to someone with a small budget instead of telling them to save for something else.

i was just posting a link and was sayin that could get loud. not sayin it would cuz ive never messed with one. never said hey get this its loud. i didnt because ive never tested it or messed around with it.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

i wasnt recommending... where did i say hey u should get this??? no i did not..
and thats what im saying... suggest that pioneer to someone with a small budget instead of telling them to save for something else.

i was just posting a link and was sayin that could get loud. not sayin it would cuz ive never messed with one. never said hey get this its loud. i didnt because ive never tested it or messed around with it.

yeah, maybe you didn't recommend it, but you are trying to make a case for crap like pyle and lanzar, when there is no case. noone should ever buy that junk just because it says 1800 watts on it. a 150 watt pioneer or kenwood can be had for just as cheap and be much better.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

omg you are not getting my point u ****ing idiot... im tired of explaining myself to idiots haha.

do u want me to quote like 50 different things or do u wanna just go ahead and go up and reread what i have said multiple times.

im not making a case for anything. just helping people with limited budgets and shit. i even said

and thats what im saying... suggest that pioneer to someone with a small budget instead of telling them to save for something else.

blind deaf or dumb?

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

i never said there was anything wrong with thier products and i know why its a fad. im not the new kid on the block.

Sorry, saw the 06'er branding and just took a wild guess. =p

and i own NON generic woofers. i guess i just enjoy making cheap woofers loud and sound halfway decent doing it.

The ebay link was for a generic woofer, I google'd it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

it makes it better for the people with limited amounts of money to actually compete up with people that have more money to spend. knowing that cheap can get loud but i wont lie and say they wont die and such. but thats why you test before you judge a woofer.
as soon as some people say ma audio... they say over rated junk.... and ect for all the other brands in the same boat.

Amen to that on both levels. The problem is with a lot of those low end woofers you run into is that those assumptions are right. Not all of them, but a lot. The lines that do kill the stereotype like the Power Acoustik KSW and Pyramid Gold don't last long (short production runs) for some reason. Others are just not utilized properly, like the ~$50 Lanzar max that can make a mean street beater, but is usually not amped properly or given prefab boxes.