phoenix xenon wiring trick USE AT OWN RISK I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU DOING THIS!!!

[kickercivic1 10+ year member]

You also have to remember that once you do this trick, this amp might just melt or catch on fire and there is no protection. And if your car is worth more then $170 then dont do this crap. Spend $100 more and get the right amp.

 

[193dBman 10+ year member]

does this trick work on any other amps, is it just class d amps in general or class t or something. J/w if it would be compatible with other companies and amps n what not.

 

[zfactor 10+ year member]

only works on the xenon mono amps due to the xe.load and how overbuilt they are....i know of no other amps this will work one. while with most amps if they are up to it you can modify them to get more out of them but that requires opening them up and soldering skills and knowing what to change and also knowing you are voiding your warranty on the amp

call erin at phoenix if any one is skeptical ask him if this works yes it does...he told me as long as the amp is run at 2ohms and not beat to hell 24/7 the lige span will be shortened but not by much . if the amp is run down to one ohm and used and constantly pushed to its limits the amp may have a problem.

 

[lostsoul 10+ year member]

So will you not see a power increse at 4 ohms?

 

[lostsoul 10+ year member]

anybody??? ^

 

[pwnt by pat 10+ year member]

According to the logic, you will see a power increase at all loads, even 1, 1/2, 1/4, however if you run 1ohm or less you will send the amp into meltdown.

 

[193dBman 10+ year member]

what if it was water cooled, could i run it down past 2 ohms?

 

[regal8r 5,000+ posts]

can u do this mod without the use of that dei?

 

[pwnt by pat 10+ year member]

what if it was water cooled, could i run it down past 2 ohms?

I'd imagine quality of componants would come into to play as soon as the heat issue is resolved. If the "engineers" say don't do it under any circumstance, I'd listen to them.

can u do this mod without the use of that dei?

Only if you come up with an electrical circuit that performs the same function.

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

how is this not all over all car audio forms everywhere? is this new info thats just been kept secret for a long time??

holy shit if this is true then imainge the possiblities!!! bwahahaah im gettin me a PG now!!! teh pwnz0r!!!11!11111oneoneone!11!

 

[lostsoul 10+ year member]

When you say it draws alot of current would you not recommend this on a car that has a yellow top and the big three? or would that be enough?

 

[Proskier 10+ year member]

that sounds like a small mod but isnt it pretty big.....to pull 1500-2000 watts you cant have 4awg wire(there's lots out there w/ that) and you are talking about pulling a lot more current. people who cant provide the amp w/ the power it is completely worthless too. so what does this new wiring trick come out to cost? cause im pretty sure you can get 1500 watts in a ed nine.1 for about a hundred bucks more than a 600.1 xenon.

 

[rlockwood 10+ year member]

i've also talked extensively with errin, and yes, the amps will put out a significant ammount of power.

I also have had a look inside of the amps, and while they're built to sustain alot more than 600w, I simply dont see the components to sustain 1800w.

what you're essentially doing is taking an amp that was overbuilt for stability and headroom, and turning it into a sony xplod, that's pressing to pull every watt from every component.

i'm going to quote another, former, pg employee here.. 'there is no free lunch'

if you're using the amps for burps, its absolutely a good plan - who cares how saturated the signal is, when all its doing is burping a tone for 30 seconds.. but if you expect these amps to sustain 1800w all day long, you need to take a look at the internals.

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but the good I see out of this trick is..... it gets rid of xe.load, and actually allows YOU to choose how much power the amp is putting out, which is excellent! I simply wouldnt advise trying to squeeze every last drop out of the amp..

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proskier - the dei module costs around $10. Any class-d amp producing roughly 1800w is going to have high current demands, and will all require large guage wire and likely an upgraded alternator.

if the amp can produce +1800w for $200, its still cheaper watt for watt than one that costs around $300 (i.e. the 9.1)

also, with this trick, its producing 1800w at 2 ohms, rather than 1ohm on a 9.1, current draw is going to be less. a 9.1 is also rated at 1200w, even being slightly underrated, theres no way in hell its putting out 1800.

on another note, if you have seen an amp that has cooked because of this mod, its very clear how it happened. this does void your warranty, plain and simple

 

[shiipseki 10+ year member]

Has anyone tested the power output of the x1200.1 @ 4 ohms?

Thanks

 

[John3000 10+ year member]

Sounds like someones car is going to be on fire...... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif