People with typeR's and TCAB....

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

those that hate are just mad because they cant...

That philosophy is wrong most of the time...

 

[Mr. Opportunist 10+ year member]

id like to see someone running quad amps in street b last on a 50a fuse to run meca s2

 

[JohnBlayz142 10+ year member]

Those people who think MECA is a joke don't compete in MECA because 95% of them couldn't get thier shit run on any sort of fuse. I ran a 2500d (.5 ohm) on a 50 amp fuse for finals last year, if you think running a 1200d on a 60 amp is worth bragging about, you are greatly mistaken.
If you want to talk about impressive, do a number at the headrest. IMO, thats FAR more legitimate than a dash OR kick score. Honestly, what kind of person sticks their head against the windshield or in the kick and says "d*mn thats loud". NOBODY. They listen at the headrest. With your setup (as far as you speaking about it), you could probably do well in reality if you are tuned low.

People spend the money on mark's boxes because they KNOW they perform. Take for example a person who i sold my nine.1 to. He bought a box from someone else on the forum, someone who is in to SPL but doesn't have credentials here for building top notch boxes. And guess what, the kid IM's me yesterday saying that his new custom box isn't as loud as the prefab one he had before.

THATS why people buy TCAB stuff, they know they are going to get performance because mark has numbers and videos to back him up. I never said that you couldn't build a quality box, but until you show some credentials, why should i believe that you could build a superior box?

All these people talk alot of shit about mark and TCAB, but most, if not all, of them do not back up any of their statements with some numbers of their own.

I hope you don't think i'm trying to argue with you, but this sort of stuff pisses me off.

Wasn't trying to brag, the 60A fuse was all I had laying around when I first installed the system, haha. My thoughts are probably just spurred in this manner because I love audio and love being a DIYer.

Kudos to you and your scores, and I can tell you know what you're doing, and I do too for the most part, I'm just not into competing very much.

It's so much nicer waiting for a good reaction to a post when I'm done typing it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

How is trying to run a setup on a fuse any easier than trying to get a CRX loud enough to be competitive in dB drag (or any org. for that matter). I'm not going to buy a f*cking car to compete with, i spend enough money on stereo stuff as is, having a separate car is just stupid.
All the orgs have their little quirks, USACi is no exception. They are still living in the '90's with their 4 ohm amp rating rule. You wanna talk about a joke, how about rating an amp for whatever the manufacturer feels like and then boasting that the amp can be ran at .1 ohm with 20 volts. Sounds like a MUCH better system. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

I don't understand why people talk shit about reality (headrest) scores. Have you tried the metering there? Its not so f*cking easy. Take that CRX that is doing a 156 on the dash, throw the meter at the headrest and watch them bust out a whopping 147. Meanwhile, while i only do a 150 on the dash, i can do a 149 on the headrest. What makes the CRX that much better than my car?

If you're so sick of it you can just avoid any conversation dealing with it, nobody asked you to chime in anyways. Don't knock shit until you try it.

You've been busting my balls about the same crap for months now, and guess what, you have no logic behind any of it.

USACi is a joke...*shrugs* and? do I go around saying..."oh yeah, try complying with usaci's 4ohm rating and see what you do then."

yes, obviously a car built to meter on the dash, probally wont do well at the headrest...i wonder why?

no logic? you may not see it..but, you also dont see the pm's i get from people agreeing with me..

 

[Mr. Opportunist 10+ year member]

USACi is a joke...*shrugs* and? do I go around saying..."oh yeah, try complying with usaci's 4ohm rating and see what you do then."
yes, obviously a car built to meter on the dash, probally wont do well at the headrest...i wonder why?

no logic? you may not see it..but, you also dont see the pm's i get from people agreeing with me..

my car does same number at dash as it does at the headrest your point is? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

my car does same number at dash as it does at the headrest your point is? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

hey, dumbass..your buddy is the one that brought up that point //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

mine is 40db louder at the headrest!!11

i can tell ya something..doesnt make it true...

...and yes, ive found myself in a jealous rage over how i cant run my system on some lame fuse.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

USACi is a joke...*shrugs* and? do I go around saying..."oh yeah, try complying with usaci's 4ohm rating and see what you do then."
yes, obviously a car built to meter on the dash, probally wont do well at the headrest...i wonder why?

no logic? you may not see it..but, you also dont see the pm's i get from people agreeing with me..

Not to say that you haven't said something about you guys competing in USACi and winning finals though right?

Gimmie 4 20.1's in an org. that goes by 4 ohm power and i think i would do pretty well.

Anyways, this thread has gotten WAAAAAAY off track.

Bottom line is people get TCAB's because they perform. /story

MECA is just as hard as any other org. /story

type-rs have an awesome price-to-performance ratio. /story

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

Not to say that you haven't said something about you guys competing in USACi and winning finals though right?
Gimmie 4 20.1's in an org. that goes by 4 ohm power and i think i would do pretty well.

Anyways, this thread has gotten WAAAAAAY off track.

Bottom line is people get TCAB's because they perform. /story

besides clarifying something for someone or using usaci rules as a point of referance...no, i dont think Brad or myself EVER posted anything about us winning...i think we've gone through this...youre still mistaken.

it was the 20.1's that won finals for us...seriously...we didnt spend thousands of dollars on different equipment, like a hundred sheets of mdf, etc...it was the 20.1's...and the awesome support that we never recieved from anyone..

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

besides clarifying something for someone or using usaci rules as a point of referance...no, i dont think Brad or myself EVER posted anything about us winning...i think we've gone through this...youre still mistaken.
it was the 20.1's that won finals for us...seriously...we didnt spend thousands of dollars on different equipment, like a hundred sheets of mdf, etc...it was the 20.1's...and the awesome support that we never recieved from anyone..

You think i don't realize you guys spent alot of time on designs and whatnot? I talked to brad and david ALL the time about stuff you guys were doing, and i know you worked hard.

But won't you admit just a tad that the 4 ohm rating system paired with the 20.1 rating just helped you a little bit? Lets not beat around the bush here.

And i do remember something being posted about USACi finals.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

You think i don't realize you guys spent alot of time on designs and whatnot? I talked to brad and david ALL the time about stuff you guys were doing, and i know you worked hard.
But won't you admit just a tad that the 4 ohm rating system paired with the 20.1 rating just helped you a little bit? Lets not beat around the bush here.

And i do remember something being posted about USACi finals.

once again..brad nor i....EVER posted anything...again, just so were clear...Brad nor I ever posted anything.........k?

do i give a **** about how the 4ohm rating came about...nope?...every person on the face of the planet had the same oppurtunity to use those amps...i wanted absolutely nothing to do with IA, but it worked out to where we had no choice to use them, since the amps we had bought and paid for ended up hitting the chopping block...

we would have won any class we entered....and we had a set of amps for every class.

 

[Spkrman]

You just asked me why you would want to compete against CRX's with huge cargo areas and gobs of power? Probably because it would be impressive if you won, unlike MECA. Forgive me, but everyone I have ever talked to doing MECA tells me they'd rather be in db drag because it's more legitimate and/or impressive.

You've talked to tommy, and he doesn't want to do dbdrag? Same here... and the many that compete in MECA.

It would be impressive if you won, but have you won, or do you really plan on beating the crx's in drfag with anything but a 4 door explorer?

"Why spend the extra money on a sub"

-Why spend the extra money on a box is my question. I'll build it myself, that's all

I'm saying.

If you don't want to buy a box, dont... but trashing a TCAB box without understanding what they are is pretty stupid.

Also, meters don't belong at the headrest, real men do it from the dash.

Real men like these?

Come own us all in meca and then you can talk //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif . Dbdrag is just a different format, and its been going for much longer than MECA... but MECA has a much better format.

If TypeR decides to buy a TL setup, then I will be happy to show you scores. I am not really into all out SPL however, my box will tear your head off with songs like Late Nite Tip and Sole Survivor due to it's large volume though.

Good day, sir //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

edit: and I ran my Orion 1200d on a 60A fuse all day when I had it, I do realize it's not 40 however.

I don't expect to see numbers... or any other sort of proof, but eh... go on doin what you do if it makes you happy.

 

[Spkrman]

Reason he uses Type R's so much is because of the Type R bonor here, reasnon there is a TCAB bonor here is because this is where he does most of his business, i guarontee you that. Not hating on Tcab, hating on 'tards.

I definitely don't do most of my business on this forum //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. THere have only been a handful of boxes sold directly through here.

On that note, I used and reccomend R's because they are cheap and work well.. what more do you want?

4 out of the 8 pics of boxes on the site are for subs other than type R's.... so I'd say there have been quite a few boxes for other woofs. I don't have a formula for just the type R... I have a formula that works for just about any woof.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

once again..brad nor i....EVER posted anything...again, just so were clear...Brad nor I ever posted anything.........k?
do i give a **** about how the 4ohm rating came about...nope?...every person on the face of the planet had the same oppurtunity to use those amps...i wanted absolutely nothing to do with IA, but it worked out to where we had no choice to use them, since the amps we had bought and paid for ended up hitting the chopping block...

we would have won any class we entered....and we had a set of amps for every class.

Not everyone had the opportunity to use those amps. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif They were very hard to come by at the beginning of last season and the year prior, hence why MECA had to change the way things were classified because of people having inside connections or other stuff to get new things first before they were really released into the market.

I know why you guys got those amps, and it had to do with a different company.

I'll try to look for the USACi post/thread.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

Not everyone had the opportunity to use those amps. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif They were very hard to come by at the beginning of last season and the year prior, hence why MECA had to change the way things were classified because of people having inside connections or other stuff to get new things first before they were really released into the market.
I know why you guys got those amps, and it had to do with a different company.

I'll try to look for the USACi post/thread.

i dont know or care about meca finals..were talking about us using them..they were commercially available..there was posts regarding them pre-finals in the "usaci forum" of carsound...

 

[Spkrman]

we would have won any class we entered....and we had a set of amps for every class.

Quite a claim... I'd love to see that posted on the usaci forum...