parallel wiring better than series?

[dmz2711 10+ year member]

I am not sure where i read this, but it said that when you series wire your subs, that you lose 1db compared to parallel wiring that will gain you 1db. I read this a long time ago, i don't remember where i read this (if you have seen this same thing, let me know where you saw it), but is there any truth behind it?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

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[dleccord 5,000+ posts]

That can be true to some extent but only if your amp can handle the load. It also doesnt necessarily mean you will gain/lose a db. I guess it's how much power you can get from the amp and from there you can theoretically say it will gain/lose this much decibels.

 

[dmz2711 10+ year member]

That can be true to some extent but only if your amp can handle the load. It also doesnt necessarily mean you will gain/lose a db. I guess it's how much power you can get from the amp and from there you can theoretically say it will gain/lose this much decibels.

I understand all that, thanks! I was just wondering about the whole "1db" thing. Like i said i dunno where i read it, thats why i was askin if anyone else saw somethin like that...

 

[SUB_URBAN 10+ year member]

No, it just affects the ohm load the amp sees. Most amps gain power at lower ohm loads and thus the whole parallel or series wiring myth of 1 db. Really no one knows how many dbs you would gain lose by doing this.

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

When wiring in series you gain Bl

When wiring in parallel you loose Bl

When wiring in series you double the load (in most cases)

When wiring in parallel you half the load

When wiring in series impeadance rise is usually greater

When wiring in parallel impeadance rise is usually lower

 

[rhruska 10+ year member]

I am not sure where i read this, but it said that when you series wire your subs, that you lose 1db compared to parallel wiring that will gain you 1db. I read this a long time ago, i don't remember where i read this (if you have seen this same thing, let me know where you saw it), but is there any truth behind it?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

not sure if anyone has answered your question yet. are you talking about if you are running two dual ohm speakers...say dual 2 ohms. you can wire them two different ways to achieve the same ohm load on the amp. for example, series voice coils and subs in parallel OR wire the voice coils in parallel and the subs in series. thus the ohm load is not changed but the wiring is slightly different. this would be easy to test for a difference in sound level i think but i would guess that nothing would be changed

 

[dmz2711 10+ year member]

not sure if anyone has answered your question yet. are you talking about if you are running two dual ohm speakers...say dual 2 ohms. you can wire them two different ways to achieve the same ohm load on the amp. for example, series voice coils and subs in parallel OR wire the voice coils in parallel and the subs in series. thus the ohm load is not changed but the wiring is slightly different. this would be easy to test for a difference in sound level i think but i would guess that nothing would be changed

i am just talking about series the voicecoils... wherever i read this it said that you lose 1db by doing it that way... lets say you have dual 1 ohm sub, and you series it to see 2 ohms, by doing it that way, it says you lose a db. once again i am not quite sure where i read this or if it is even true

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

I understand all that, thanks! I was just wondering about the whole "1db" thing. Like i said i dunno where i read it, thats why i was askin if anyone else saw somethin like that...

If you understand all that you should understand that the source of your info was not terribly bright.

 

[squeak12 10+ year member]

I think he means the path the power has to follow such as dual 1 series to 2 and dual 4 paralleled to 2. Would they use the power equally or different since the VCs are wired in a different configuration, and I don't know the answer to that.

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

I think he means the path the power has to follow such as dual 1 series to 2 and dual 4 paralleled to 2. Would they use the power equally or different since the VCs are wired in a different configuration, and I don't know the answer to that.

if that's the case I'd say minimal differences if any.

Certainly not worth worrying about unless you're competing for fractions of a dB.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Since voltage current and thus power would be the same for the driver as a whole there is no difference when you are only talking about one driver. When you start wiring in multiple drivers the interaction between the two drivers becomes a player and you want to wire the individual drivers in parallel whenever possible, wiring the coils of each driver in whatever fashion needed to get the final load that you want.

 

[lincolnls 10+ year member]

Since voltage current and thus power would be the same for the driver as a whole there is no difference when you are only talking about one driver. QUOTE]

NO!

parelell your VC share the same voltage, but split the current and lowers the ohm load

series you split the voltage and share the same current and raises the ohm load

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

NO!

parelell your VC share the same voltage, but split the current and lowers the ohm load

series you split the voltage and share the same current and raises the ohm load

If you run the same amount of power to a DVC sub with the coils wired in series or parallel the outcome will be the same. The change in load presented to the amp by the driver in question was not the question. Sure with most amps you could theoretically get 4x as much power with the coils wired in series, but that wasn't the question. The question was if wiring in series or parallel has an inherrant advantage over the other, the the answer is that with the same power applied to each, no. If you don't believe me, do the math. Apply, say, 400W to a DVC 2 ohm sub with the coils wired in series or the same 400W to the same sub with the coils wired in parallel and the result is the same, 400W are going into the sub. If you were to break it down by coil the voltage drop across each coil would be the same (the amp output voltage on the 1 ohm load would be half that of the 4 ohm setup) and the current through each coil would be the same (current from the amp double on the 1 ohm as compared to the 4 ohm). There are amp out there that do exactly that, adjust rail voltage to account for driver load an thus output the same power to any load within its operational range and other than the reduced damping factor and efficiency there is no difference between wiring configurations.

 

[dmz2711 10+ year member]

If you run the same amount of power to a DVC sub with the coils wired in series or parallel the outcome will be the same. The change in load presented to the amp by the driver in question was not the question. Sure with most amps you could theoretically get 4x as much power with the coils wired in series, but that wasn't the question. The question was if wiring in series or parallel has an inherrant advantage over the other, the the answer is that with the same power applied to each, no. If you don't believe me, do the math. Apply, say, 400W to a DVC 2 ohm sub with the coils wired in series or the same 400W to the same sub with the coils wired in parallel and the result is the same, 400W are going into the sub. If you were to break it down by coil the voltage drop across each coil would be the same (the amp output voltage on the 1 ohm load would be half that of the 4 ohm setup) and the current through each coil would be the same (current from the amp double on the 1 ohm as compared to the 4 ohm). There are amp out there that do exactly that, adjust rail voltage to account for driver load an thus output the same power to any load within its operational range and other than the reduced damping factor and efficiency there is no difference between wiring configurations.

so in summary, i will not notice the difference between wiring in series and wiring in parallel, correct???