OSU KICKS ND'S BALLS AND TAKES THE FIESTA Bowl - POOR ORegon

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

true, but the bowl arent giving up thier $$$

 

[MastaFlex 10+ year member]

exactly but it should be playoffs that are sponsored you know

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

right but then all the small time schools that get to the nobodygivesarat'sass.com bowl get shafted out of their payday.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Once again, BS on seeing "enough" of the games. You've seen the Ohio State game (watch the winning TD pass to Limas Sweed again) and the Texas A&M game, a game where Vince had by FAR his worst game of the year. Every other game on ABC was NOT shown in the midwest. My parents live in northern IL and have been disappointed by how few games they were able to see.

Oh, so now you're going to tell me what games I've watched and didn't watch?? I never said he isn't a great college quarterback. I'm just saying that he won't make a very good pro quarterback. Vick makes things happen but when defenses make him throw the ball whether its in the pocket or rolling out bad things tend to happen. Carolina figured him out this past Sunday and Carolina won the game. they made him throw the ball and he got picked.

But hey, I'm sorry that the guy you think is GOD at quarterback truly isn't that great. Regardless of his mechanics he AIMS the ball and no one has ever been successful when they're AIMING the ball which is what I was getting at earlier before it got into an in depth conversation about mechanics. I wasn't really talking about mechanics as much as I was aiming.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Yep, tons of great QB's have poor mechanics. Bernie Kosar threw sidearm and had a great career. Everyone said Dan Marino threw too quickly and didn't set his feet enough, he did OK for himself. Whereas a lot of QB's with prototypical mechanics had terrible careers. Wuerffel, Weinke, Toretta, Couch, McNown, etc. Mechanics aren't nearly as important as reading and recognizing coverages, finding soft spots in the secondary, feeling pressure, knowing when to leave the pocket, being able to lead the receiver, escaping blitzers, avoiding sacks, etc etc etc.
And as far as Mike Vick, this is really only his 3rd season of starting. Of course he's got a lot of work to do, as do tons of QB's early in their career. He came in as a really inaccurate thrower who could only throw the deep ball, and he's gotten much better, while having to switch offenses halfway through his short career. I don't think I have to run down the list of great, often Hall of Fame caliber QB's, who didn't hit their stride until their 5th or 6th year. I think Adam is just incredibly biased against QB's that can run for whatever reason.

I understand about Vick being hurt alot of his career and all but the guy is so overhyped like a tcab box is on these forums. I think he has some of the quickest feet to ever play the game since barry sanders. But it he still isnt superman. He gets sacked more than any qb I have seen and he underthrows and overthrows his recievers not to mention he is terriable at reading coverages. So I think he is overpriced, overpaid, overhyped=another big bust.

Ohiostate is going to win the fiesta bowl as well to the other guys posting, lol!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

So I think he is overpriced, overpaid, overhyped=another big bust.
Ohiostate is going to win the fiesta bowl as well to the other guys posting, lol!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Not true! Mike Vick to a horrific franchise, and put ***** in seats- that alone means he in neither overpriced, overpaid, nor overhyped. Will he ever be one of the best? I doubt it, but he sells merchandise and tickets and to the owners that's whan matters- I even think to a lot of these franchises winning is secondary except that you often require winning to fill stadiums- Mike Vick fills a stadium even when they ****. He is worth every penny they are paying him, but for that reason- he will be a weekly ad on Sportscenter doing his human video game thing, unfortuneatly he will likely have a short career as someone his size will be plauged by injury running the ball as much as he does- look how short running back's careers are.

 

[MastaFlex 10+ year member]

Alright people. I am willing to make a 20 dollar bet with any person who wishes to call it on the ND OH state game. We will make it legit and you must pay over ebay.

Who ever is willing to do it let me know. I am taking Notre Dame, all else can take OH state who is taking it?

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

betting is dumb ..... noone knows anything for sure

 

[MastaFlex 10+ year member]

exactly, thats why you bet its a gamble, i am willing to make these people put the money where their mouth is

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

money = spirit or being an avid fan? lol as a cathlic isnt betting a sin?

 

[MastaFlex 10+ year member]

I am obsessed with Notre Dame. I love Notre dame - also on the catholic joke, come on man dont be stupid and try to be funny off of this.

Anyone up for a bet?

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Alright people. I am willing to make a 20 dollar bet with any person who wishes to call it on the ND OH state game. We will make it legit and you must pay over ebay.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Who bets through eBay?

 

[MastaFlex 10+ year member]

through paypal its more or less a trust issue, but you know just saying

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

I thought this thread was about you spreading lies about how your domers deserved the Fiesta Bowl over a better team..Oregon? I am a lot of things, but I will not be one who puts faith in THE Ohio State University!

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

I thought this thread was about you spreading lies about how your domers deserved the Fiesta Bowl over a better team..Oregon? I am a lot of things, but I will not be one who puts faith in THE Ohio State University!

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