OS Newb, feedback appreciated

[Sragan]

Straight and to the point.

I've been out of car-audio since 1991 (gasp!) and the amount of new stuff out is almost ridiculous. I'm finally in the position to put together a system I've always wanted (actually better now). After installing multiple a/d/s systems back-in-da-day, I searched and searched for a whatever old-school (OS) a/d/s equipment I could find. No luck, except on the amp.

Vehicle: 98 F-150 extended cab 4x4. Lifted, 35's, Lightning motor

Equipment: Alpine CDE-9852, Audiocontrol 3.1, a/d/s P6.25, Soundstream Rubicon Angina, MB Quart DWE 254, Morel Dotech MKII 6 (2). JL Audio Power wire, KnuKonceptz RCA, ect.

Additionally, I did the entire cab with Second Skin Damplifier pro, back of all panels with Frost King (closed cell rubber foam), a second layer of nuprene rubber foam (similar to mouse pad stuff, just thinner), along with acoustical wedge foam, 1", between the panels and behind the rear seat. Very very quiet inside the truck, quite pleased.

Now, all the equipment is currently laying here in the back office floor, I'll start the install next week. I'll probably get a bit of grief about the quart sub, but I'm not looking to move the windshield either. I'll be building the box so that it'll replace the factory rear lower seat mounts, and I'm assuming that's also going to be the best spot to mount the amps (?). Since I'm using a single 10, should I build the box where the sub face front, rear, down (insert feedback here).

Also, I absolutely love the morels, at the store. I could not find any original a/d/s components to my disappointment. That said, the morels kill whatever I remember of the a/d/s, I'm just not sure about the crossover. I did find on evilBay a modified a/d/s crossover with 12db lp and 18db hp (or was that vice versa?) that I'm considering for the front stage components only. Any feedback on tweeter placement in the F150? I'm tossing around the idea of adding a 3rd set of morels in Q-logic kick panels and running the a/d/s on all 6 channels, instead of bridging it to 4.

Anyway, the morels have me excited about car audio again. This has been a great board to research, I just wish I had the oppotunity to audition Rainbows, Focals, ect, so the only comparison I had at the time of purchase was Boston Pros, and personally (understand the use of that word here), I felt the morels made the bostons sound like audiovox components. Very smooth, very mellow, with the ability to play the same very loud.

Feedback or additional ideas are much appreciated.

Thanks for reading -

Steve

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[Rattlebrain 10+ year member]

Yes! The Morels are Nice! I would love to get some but that price tag is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/awesome.gif.4430a219d9aaaa6cadc75e9290979dfb.gif

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif Welcome to the forum, Steve.

Ahh....the old days of a/d/s before they found themselves under the cover of DEI's umbrella (a sad day that was, indeed)

My initial thinking would be to face the sub downward (towards the cab floor). Are you doing sealed or vented with that Quart? (I'll give you no grief about that choice ~ no matter what anyone else says you're the only one that has to like it and if you do then you're gold!)

Morels. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif Israeli-made goodness. /story.

The outline of what you're doing sounds like the makings of a solid SQ-based system and with all that deadening happening in your truck you ought to be able to hear a mouse pass gas when a CD is paused //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I, for one, am looking forward to you getting it installed and telling us how it turned out. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Rattlebrain 10+ year member]

Welcome, buy the way.

Nice to have an another "old timer" like me.

 

[Sragan]

Rattle - Cost +10% this past weekend (mabey through today/tomorrow?) at the local shop. 250 per set, basically buy one get one free. Definitely couldn't pass that up after hearing them. Went shopping for 250 front components, brought home a grand worth, half price! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Prowler - With it being a single 10 and (I believe) more than adequately powered by the Angina, sealed would be the best choice. I've done some decent ported enclosures, a long time ago, but I want to steer away a bit from the "boom" for more precise bass. Firing it downward is the first and easiest choice, but I didn't know if there'd be drawbacks to doing so, or simply a bit more benefit firing it in another direction.

The deadening was/is a definite plus. You can get into the truck, and your ears will ring it's so quiet. I've never been the best getting any install pics done, but we'll see.

I'll definitely post results/reviews when finished. TooL's "10,000 days" title track sounded incredible with the morels, and what sold me on them.

{edit: Thanks for the welcome!}

 

[Rattlebrain 10+ year member]

Rattle - Cost +10% this past weekend (mabey through today/tomorrow?) at the local shop. 250 per set, basically buy one get one free. Definitely couldn't pass that up after hearing them. Went shopping for 250 front components, brought home a grand worth, half price! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Prowler - With it being a single 10 and (I believe) more than adequately powered by the Angina, sealed would be the best choice. I've done some decent ported enclosures, a long time ago, but I want to steer away a bit from the "boom" for more precise bass. Firing it downward is the first and easiest choice, but I didn't know if there'd be drawbacks to doing so, or simply a bit more benefit firing it in another direction.

The deadening was/is a definite plus. You can get into the truck, and your ears will ring it's so quiet. I've never been the best getting any install pics done, but we'll see.

I'll definitely post results/reviews when finished. TooL's "10,000 days" title track sounded incredible with the morels, and what sold me on them.

{edit: Thanks for the welcome!}

Man, you got a freak'n steal. And def. get pics. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Stick with the downfiring then, convenient and sounds great in trucks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

As far as tweeter placement, any room in the factory sails?

I'm a fan of having the tweeter up by your ears, or correctly aimed in a kick panel.

BTW, I love listening to Tool in my truck. In fact, might go for a ride right now... just for that.

nG

 

[Sragan]

As far as tweeter placement, any room in the factory sails?

I'm a fan of having the tweeter up by your ears, or correctly aimed in a kick panel.

nG

Maybe, but I don't think it would be optimum, due to the shape of them. I'll have to go look again.

On your second point, I agree, and I'm thinking maybe the A pillars, about eye level. Several mounting options for angling the tweeter, these may end up being about the best spot I can find. {on edit: This does go against the standard 6" away from mid rule....}

I'm trying to dig up kick panels on the cheap, for the sale price on the morels, definitely a best add-on.