ORION XTR PRO 12" vs. JL 10TW3's


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They’re in stock in 10’s and 12 right now in d4 confiG right now


From the video on the regular sundown site They look super well built, beefy, and capable of some solid Output. Two 10’s or twelves might be optimal an enable you to match the impedance load on your amp
 
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I know what JL says about the thin lines and I’m sure they are great for a shallow but I don’t buy they hit “harder” than the W6. Those thin lines have a hefty price tag on them as well. What are they going in?
If you want the space and the box hidden the do the thin lines. If you don’t care about hiding the box and can sacrifice the room, I’d do 2 regular 10’s ported
See above picture
 
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Sorry for the confusion, that's what I meant by "not tight behind the seat" meaning the back seats. I only lose 1 click on the seat with thin line subs in this box. A box for regular subs, I would lose half of the leg room back there.
 

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Some is better than Rockford, MTX, PPI, Soundstream and all the others from back in the day.
Pretty much all the greats have fallen, but really how many brands have the image and clientele to command the prices JL charges to be able to afford to do as much manufacturing in the USA as they do? Certainly nobody who does JL's volume.
 
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Pretty much all the greats have fallen, but really how many brands have the image and clientele to command the prices JL charges to be able to afford to do as much manufacturing in the USA as they do? Certainly nobody who does JL's volume.
I would have thought Rockford could do it. I think that an investment company has a controlling share of them though. At least the products are still good. I hate seeing production in America die out.
 

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I hate seeing production in America die out.
And yet nobody ever cries foul as more and more taxes and regulation are lumped on businesses in this country. What do you suppose a Chinese sweat shop pays in payroll taxes each month? What's their worker's comp insurance bill look like? How much do they shell out in payroll taxes and property taxes? All that and who even wants to work in this country anymore?
 
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And yet nobody ever cries foul as more and more taxes and regulation are lumped on businesses in this country. What do you suppose a Chinese sweat shop pays in payroll taxes each month? What's their worker's comp insurance bill look like? How much do they shell out in payroll taxes and property taxes? All that and who even wants to work in this country anymore?
This was not meant to start a hate America platform. If you you want to talk about taxes and regulation you cannot put that on America as a whole. It really depends on which state and city you live and work in because it's at that level that that determines how they will treat businesses. For instance I live in California (horrible now) and worked in the city of Buena Park. That city made it so hard to do business because of the taxes and rent (and they were one of the lower end areas) then just being in California made it worse. Businesses are now fleeing to Texas and Arizona or other states that are way more sympathetic to small businesses and they are flourishing there. They want businesses to come. California seems to want to drive them out.
 
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For instance I live in California
My condolences. We had so much audio businesses actually manufacturing there back in the 80s and into the 90s until costs and liability of doing anything there drove those folks out. Yes, as you say some states are better than others, but the point being there's a lot of costs of doing business in the first world that people don't consider.
 
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I don’t see those Dayton’s giving him what he wants. Sounds like he wants to have more output than that.
 

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This was not meant to start a hate America platform. If you you want to talk about taxes and regulation you cannot put that on America as a whole. It really depends on which state and city you live and work in because it's at that level that that determines how they will treat businesses. For instance I live in California (horrible now) and worked in the city of Buena Park. That city made it so hard to do business because of the taxes and rent (and they were one of the lower end areas) then just being in California made it worse. Businesses are now fleeing to Texas and Arizona or other states that are way more sympathetic to small businesses and they are flourishing there. They want businesses to come. California seems to want to drive them out.
I’m sorry, I got into car audio in tenth grade, 1992. I saw it peak and it seems like the industry is fighting a losing battle to continue. I am just lamenting the golden era when the best equipment said made in the USA 🇺🇸. Soundstream had it on their amps “Proudly handcrafted in the USA. Now they have been sold and are produced in China and they don’t make claimed power. I just hate to see that. I’m not analyzing taxes or the corporate need for more and more profit. I am just missing a time when every company in the industry had passion for sound.
 
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I don’t see those Dayton’s giving him what he wants. Sounds like he wants to have more output than that.

I ran into this video. Say's it's 2 10TW3's so if this is true I would say 3 of them should be more than enough for me
I am assuming bumping harder than one 12 XTR PRO
 
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