Noob at subs needing some help

[zachzakk]

Never worry about asking too many questions; that's what a forum is for. If we didnt want to help you, we wouldnt be here.
Obsidian will perform just fine for you.

Your friend is right about kicker. They are a mainstream brand. Yes, they sell some stuff at wal-mart for $50-100. But they also sell some $480 subs.

D2 means that it is Dual Voice Coil (DVC) and each voice coil is 2ohms. You need to match the number of ohms to how much power your amp will put out at that resistance (ohms are a measure of resistance in a flow of power). DVC 2-ohm subs are generally used in applications where you will be running two subs, because they can be wired in such a way that the amp sees a 2 ohm load (where most amps put out the most power). You should look for a DVC-4ohm sub. A single DVC-4ohm sub can be wired in such a way that the amp will see 2 ohms.

So it seems you and timmy both suggest the d4 over the d2, am i correct? So atleast i am making some ground there. But now should i get one or two? I feel like i want 2 because it will be louder. I'm assuming whether i get 1 or 2 will effect which amp i get correct?

 

[jungstah 10+ year member]

i second the obsidians. if you want the sub to get loud and low, oa's will work great for your money. SA's are fine and dandy, but you need more power to really bring em out. oa's do well with low power and sound crystal !

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

Never worry about asking too many questions; that's what a forum is for. If we didnt want to help you, we wouldnt be here.
Obsidian will perform just fine for you.

Your friend is right about kicker. They are a mainstream brand. Yes, they sell some stuff at wal-mart for $50-100. But they also sell some $480 subs.

D2 means that it is Dual Voice Coil (DVC) and each voice coil is 2ohms. You need to match the number of ohms to how much power your amp will put out at that resistance (ohms are a measure of resistance in a flow of power). DVC 2-ohm subs are generally used in applications where you will be running two subs, because they can be wired in such a way that the amp sees a 2 ohm load (where most amps put out the most power). You should look for a DVC-4ohm sub. A single DVC-4ohm sub can be wired in such a way that the amp will see 2 ohms.

Since when do most amps do most at 2 ohms....??? Wtf!!! U giving this kid bad info

 

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i second the obsidians. If you want the sub to get loud and low, oa's will work great for your money. Sa's are fine and dandy, but you need more power to really bring em out. Oa's do well with low power and sound crystal !

x2!!

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

Since when do most amps do most at 2 ohms....??? Wtf!!! U giving this kid bad info

If he's on a budget, then he probably wont be able to afford an amp that is stable down to 1 ohm.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

So it seems you and timmy both suggest the d4 over the d2, am i correct? So atleast i am making some ground there. But now should i get one or two? I feel like i want 2 because it will be louder. I'm assuming whether i get 1 or 2 will effect which amp i get correct?

To be honest, you probably only need one. But if you can afford two, then go for it.

The amp you get will depend on how much power you need/want it to give to your sub(s). Two subs require twice the power of one.

EDIT: Yes, we are both suggesting 4-ohm subs--but for different reasons. He says to get them if you get two subs in order to wire them to 1 ohm. The less ohms an amp sees, the more watts it will put out. But not all amps are able to handle such few ohms. More expensive ones are able to. I am suggesting that you get a 4-ohms sub, because I think you really only need one. And you can wire 1 sub that is DVC 4-ohm in a way that the amp sees two ohms. Basically any amp is stable at 2 ohms, and is more realistic for your price point. I wasnt expecting much when I got my type-r and 500watt amp. But when it was all said and done, I was completely blown away by it. I have the best car audio system out of anyone at my high school.

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

I never said anything that suggested he should get anything but the SA. All I said was I love my Type-R on 500w. It would not blow up at 750+ ... It's rated for 1000w


Why dont they rate it for 1000w then?

Cause most people don't have CLEAN power!

 

[jungstah 10+ year member]

If he's on a budget, then he probably wont be able to afford an amp that is stable down to 1 ohm.

apsm/hifonics hfi/hifonics brutus is stable down to 1 ohm, those are budget amps. now kicker/alpine amps, those are 2ohm stable and waaaaay more expensive

 

[zachzakk]

To be honest, you probably only need one. But if you can afford two, then go for it.
The amp you get will depend on how much power you need/want it to give to your sub(s). Two subs require twice the power of one.

Depending on the price of the amp i can afford two, but i might want to buy an amp that can support two even if i only get one for the present, that way i can always add another sub later right? So for two what would you suggest?

 

[jungstah 10+ year member]

Depending on the price of the amp i can afford two, but i might want to buy an amp that can support two even if i only get one for the present, that way i can always add another sub later right? So for two what would you suggest?

that's the right way of thinking. save up more and give yourself headroom! it dont hurt to have a big amp and 1 sub, just saves you money if the upgrade bug bites you later

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

So it seems you and timmy both suggest the d4 over the d2, am i correct? So atleast i am making some ground there. But now should i get one or two? I feel like i want 2 because it will be louder. I'm assuming whether i get 1 or 2 will effect which amp i get correct?

Go with one if it's in the budget but 2 obv is gunna be louder but I'll tell you even 1 in the right box will be louder then most people's setups .. Now for the d4 d2 and needing diff amp for 1 or 2 well your answer is yes and it's no you can buy a d2 run it at 1 ohm.. Of u plan on keeping a single woofer prob ur best bet.. Or you can always get one woofer a d4 and a amp good enough at one ohm to power too .. It will be weaker at 2 ohms so u run the single d4 at 2 ohms then when u ready for number 2 you can drop the amp to one ohm and get more power for both woofers

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

ok guys lets all get a long .ok op also look at american bass xfl subs very good subs for the price ,rated at 1000 rms each as far as an amp the ab ph or new vfl hybrid amps are good and dont cost alot. i'm a vendor [ car audio dealer ] on the forum and i can help you out with everything you need all new with warranty ,but need a budget to work with first.the type r's are ok subs ,nothing special i've thrown 1200 watts rms at them and they took it for a while.the sa subs will take 1000 rms easy ,just do your homework first ,or at least ask some of the old timers on the forum here .there is alot of people with very good knowledge of car audio equipment here.

 

[gckless 5,000+ posts]

Never worry about asking too many questions; that's what a forum is for. If we didnt want to help you, we wouldnt be here.
Obsidian will perform just fine for you.

Your friend is right about kicker. They are a mainstream brand. Yes, they sell some stuff at wal-mart for $50-100. But they also sell some $480 subs.

D2 means that it is Dual Voice Coil (DVC) and each voice coil is 2ohms. You need to match the number of ohms to how much power your amp will put out at that resistance (ohms are a measure of resistance in a flow of power). DVC 2-ohm subs are generally used in applications where you will be running two subs, because they can be wired in such a way that the amp sees a 2 ohm load (where most amps put out the most power). You should look for a DVC-4ohm sub. A single DVC-4ohm sub can be wired in such a way that the amp will see 2 ohms.

Since when do most amps do most at 2 ohms....??? Wtf!!! U giving this kid bad info 

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x2!!

^^^This. Most subs in a dual sub setup are bought as 4 ohm DVC, to wire down to 1 ohm. Any amp that can handle 1 ohm will put out more power at 1 ohm. And a 1 ohm stable amp can be had for fairly cheap.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

apsm/hifonics hfi/hifonics brutus is stable down to 1 ohm, those are budget amps. now kicker/alpine amps, those are 2ohm stable and waaaaay more expensive

me and hifonics dont get along well.

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

To be honest, you probably only need one. But if you can afford two, then go for it.
The amp you get will depend on how much power you need/want it to give to your sub(s). Two subs require twice the power of one.

EDIT: Yes, we are both suggesting 4-ohm subs--but for different reasons. He says to get them if you get two subs in order to wire them to 1 ohm. The less ohms an amp sees, the more watts it will put out. But not all amps are able to handle such few ohms. More expensive ones are able to. I am suggesting that you get a 4-ohms sub, because I think you really only need one. And you can wire 1 sub that is DVC 4-ohm in a way that the amp sees two ohms. Basically any amp is stable at 2 ohms, and is more realistic for your price point. I wasnt expecting much when I got my type-r and 500watt amp. But when it was all said and done, I was completely blown away by it. I have the best car audio system out of anyone at my high school.

You really have no clue bro almost all cheap amps are one ohm stable Hifonics maxxonics in general wtf are you saying man!

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

apsm/hifonics hfi/hifonics brutus is stable down to 1 ohm, those are budget amps. now kicker/alpine amps, those are 2ohm stable and waaaaay more expensive

Thank you this guy has no reason to be answering questions when he has no clue !!