new rf amps

[whtxblazer02 10+ year member]

That's actually a very scary thought. I personally hope to never see it in one of my amplifiers.
I don't like the idea of my "1000w RMS" amplifier only being able to support 1kw of output for less than 16 seconds, and from there only being a 270w amplifier //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Not to mention the higher constant current consumption.

I think I understand what is going on with the HT technology.

First of all, werewolf has a chip on his shoulder. I don't know what his deal is. I am sure the RF engineers know what their products are capable of, and he seems to think they are "lying." He never outright called them liars, but he is trying his best to twist meanings of certain words, such as continuous.

This amp will not play a sine wave for more than 16 seconds (with conservative figures) at 15,000 watts, and the RF engineers agree with werewolf on that. However, this amp was designed to play music, which does not demand full power for long periods of time. That, from my understanding, is what werewolf is arguing about.

This amp is designed to play music. SPL competitiors will not want this amp. Therefore, 99% of the users of car audio will benefit from this technology.

If this amp was not capable of having enough power to play music, Rockford would not mass produce it, like they say they will in the future.

IMO, Rockford is getting back to what it used to be known for - and that is quality products. They won't take any unnecessary risks to give them that bad reputation anymore.

I am not an engineer and don't claim to know everything about this amp, but the RF engineers did a good enough job explaining it that any ordinary Joe can understand the basics of the technology.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

This amp will not play a sine wave for more than 16 seconds (with conservative figures) at 15,000 watts, and the RF engineers agree with werewolf on that. However, this amp was designed to play music, which does not demand full power for long periods of time. That, from my understanding, is what werewolf is arguing about.

This amp is designed to play music. SPL competitiors will not want this amp. Therefore, 99% of the users of car audio will benefit from this technology.

If this amp was not capable of having enough power to play music, Rockford would not mass produce it, like they say they will in the future.

No one ever said this amplifier doesn't have enough power to play music. Heck, with it's current draw it's still good for around 4kw of actual continuous power ouptut. That's still a heck of a lot of power for a 4-channel amplifier.

But, is it really capable of 15,000w "continuously".....the answer is no, it's not. And, henceforth, really shouldn't be labeled a 15kw "RMS" amplifier. That is what werewold was trying to get across. The RF tech kept coming up with pretty little sugar coated explainations (IMO, atleast), like wanting to talk about "music power".

If they want to talk about "music power"...we might aswell start using peak power ratings as a basis for comparison aswell. They're essentially the same thing.

As interesting a technology as it is.....I still fear the day that this techology enters the mass consumer market.

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

werewolf has several excellent component-level writeups.