New or used...

mine was $4k in 01 or 02. then the next year they cut the prices in half:furious://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif
its the same with any new technology

DVD players were $700+ new

now they are giving them away free at the bank

blu ray was high also

now you can get a player for ~$300

soon blu ray will be free at banks also

 
mine was $4k in 01 or 02. then the next year they cut the prices in half:furious://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif
Since your DLP is old I won't argue the cost, but is your 7-8 year old DLP really better than any new LCD? I know mine can be had for under 2k and it was better than any DLP I saw at the store even though I didn't pay much attention to them.

And I have never had an issue with veiwing angles. Glare...yes, when I have the blinds open.

I'm gonna have to say LCD>DLP

 
Since your DLP is old I won't argue the cost, but is your 7-8 year old DLP really better than any new LCD? I know mine can be had for under 2k and it was better than any DLP I saw at the store even though I didn't pay much attention to them.
And I have never had an issue with veiwing angles. Glare...yes, when I have the blinds open.

I'm gonna have to say LCD>DLP
The thing with DLP is that they dont calibrate them in the store

I was the same way , I thought DLP was grainy and such

Now that its properly calibrated I get soooo many complients on the picture of the TV. People are amazed at how good blu ray looks. Even Directv at 1080i over the air looks great

The LCD to me just didnt do it for me.

 
Since your DLP is old I won't argue the cost, but is your 7-8 year old DLP really better than any new LCD? I know mine can be had for under 2k and it was better than any DLP I saw at the store even though I didn't pay much attention to them.
You absolutely cannot compare TV picture quality in the stores, I'm sorry.

It's been well-documented that many of these TVs have a significant improvement in picture quality when properly set up and calibrated, a process that can take up to several hours. Not a single one of the TVs you will find @ Best Buy, Wal-Mart or Ultimate Electronics has ever been properly calibrated. While some may look slightly different/better out of the box, even that is misleading, as you have no way to predict the potential improvement other models might offer over that one... what if it looks worse out of the box but offers a dramatically greater improvement when properly calibrated?

Also keep in mind the environment in which you are evaluating these TVs... a big box store? With 40-foot ceilings, massive flourescent lighting, millions of reflections, absolutely ZERO natural light allowed inside the building? Ever wondered why almost all large TV dsiplays are either in the back of the store or off to the side, well-shielded most of the time from the natural light entering through the glass front doors???

And let's not forget the fact that most of these TVs are not even running a true HD signal in the store... how many of them are playing a true BluRay movie or running HD programming continually? 2 or 3?? Really? And those 2 or 3 look soooooo much better than all the rest, which happen to be playing a regular DVD or standard programming? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Wonder why?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif And what about the cables being used? Multiple splitting/switching stations? Monster Cable got busted a few years ago trying to pass off their HDMI cable as a superior picture quality improvement and got busted when someone checked their setup and reported that the Monster HDMI cable was being used against either generic S-video or component, can't remember which.

Maybe some models have better profit margin than others... I could easily set up most of these TVs to look drastically different from each other, especially in such a harsh viewing environment....

The variables are absolutely endless... in fairness, it does make it very tough for us as consumers to get a fair shake and to find the best deal for our budget. This is why tons of research is arguably my best tool when I get ready to buy such a TV.

 
The thing with DLP is that they dont calibrate them in the store
I was the same way , I thought DLP was grainy and such

Now that its properly calibrated I get soooo many complients on the picture of the TV. People are amazed at how good blu ray looks. Even Directv at 1080i over the air looks great

The LCD to me just didnt do it for me.
I know calibration makes a big difference but since I was only able to see it how it was setup in store that's pretty much all I had to go off of. One of my friends also has a dlp. It looks like shit but I know its not calibrated at all. They opened the box and said "hey, its bigger so it looks better." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

You absolutely cannot compare TV picture quality in the stores, I'm sorry.
It's been well-documented that many of these TVs have a significant improvement in picture quality when properly set up and calibrated, a process that can take up to several hours. Not a single one of the TVs you will find @ Best Buy, Wal-Mart or Ultimate Electronics has ever been properly calibrated. While some may look slightly different/better out of the box, even that is misleading, as you have no way to predict the potential improvement other models might offer over that one... what if it looks worse out of the box but offers a dramatically greater improvement when properly calibrated?

Also keep in mind the environment in which you are evaluating these TVs... a big box store? With 40-foot ceilings, massive flourescent lighting, millions of reflections, absolutely ZERO natural light allowed inside the building? Ever wondered why almost all large TV dsiplays are either in the back of the store or off to the side, well-shielded most of the time from the natural light entering through the glass front doors???

And let's not forget the fact that most of these TVs are not even running a true HD signal in the store... how many of them are playing a true BluRay movie or running HD programming continually? 2 or 3?? Really? And those 2 or 3 look soooooo much better than all the rest, which happen to be playing a regular DVD or standard programming? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Wonder why?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif And what about the cables being used? Multiple splitting/switching stations? Monster Cable got busted a few years ago trying to pass off their HDMI cable as a superior picture quality improvement and got busted when someone checked their setup and reported that the Monster HDMI cable was being used against either generic S-video or component, can't remember which.

Maybe some models have better profit margin than others... I could easily set up most of these TVs to look drastically different from each other, especially in such a harsh viewing environment....

The variables are absolutely endless... in fairness, it does make it very tough for us as consumers to get a fair shake and to find the best deal for our budget. This is why tons of research is arguably my best tool when I get ready to buy such a TV.
As stated before, I know how things work in store as far as calibration, cables, actual source, and lighting. In store was my only opportunity to see the sets so I had to go off of that. I also did my homework reading reviews, comparison test, and whatever else I could find. Because of that I went with an LCD.

 
my DLP has the 04 or 05 engine in it. It does beat most of the new LCD/plasmas. My friend just got a 42" Samsung LCD and my Samsung DLP eats it alive //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Only thing our TV is missing is HDMI.
What kind of cables are you using?

 
We both used the same component cables comcast gave us. I ended up putting my monster cables on it. Not a huge difference. hardly noticeable. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif
Please...step into the realm of HDMI //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Please...step into the realm of HDMI //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
HDMI is really no better to the eye

on a computer sure you mgiht notice a diffrance in a test

but in real life no diffrance

its called marketing, they want you to buy thier $100 tripple platinum HDMI dipped in uranium

I do run HDMI but I buy the cheaper ones

 
HDMI is really no better to the eye
on a computer sure you mgiht notice a diffrance in a test

but in real life no diffrance

its called marketing, they want you to buy thier $100 tripple platinum HDMI dipped in uranium

I do run HDMI but I buy the cheaper ones
I noticed a difference. I bought cheap stuff too. $5 from parts express.

 
DLP is better than LCD in two important areas.

The black levels on LCD sets **** compared to DLP (more dark gray than black), and there is zero motion lag in DLP (an issue in most LCD's unless you buy a 120hz model).

 
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