Never thought it would happen to me...

I agree, and I said that I don't believe that study 100%.
You can not say something is not addictive just because. People can become addicted to anything..100% anything.

I forgot all about talking to her about them, I'm sorry. She just recently changed jobs so I will see what is going with all that tonight.
[in response to the bolded statement] Actually, that's not true. The correct way of saying that would be that people can become dependent on anything. I know, it probably seems like I'm busting some unnecessary balls here; but the fact is that substances can be addictive. Many substances are(caffeine, alcohol, meth, cocaine, to name a few). However, it's a misnomer to say people can become addicted to anything when not everything is addictive.

For more on that, read the last post I made.

About the papers, that's great news! That means she's free to disperse them without any legal consequences now, right? Hopefully?

 
I will leave it at this............I bet you that if you did not associate with weed smokers your stuff would not got stolen....simple solution....when you find out let me know if they are weed smokers you know. some how so
It has nothing to do with them smoking weed. The people i have suspicion that did it do harder drugs than that, and I don't associate with them. You really did not read my first post did you? I hadn't even seen those people in months. My roommate had them over 2 days ago when I wasn't even there. I didn't even know they came over until after all the stuff was stolen.

Also you're basically saying that everybody in the world that has had stuff stolen was because they associated with somebody who smokes weed. People get their cars broken into randomly due to the desire of the objects within, not cause they knew somebody who smoked pot.

 
[in response to the bolded statement] Actually, that's not true. The correct way of saying that would be that people can become dependent on anything. I know, it probably seems like I'm busting some unnecessary balls here; but the fact is that substances can be addictive. Many substances are(caffeine, alcohol, meth, cocaine, to name a few). However, it's a misnomer to say people can become addicted to anything when not everything is addictive.
For more on that, read the last post I made.

About the papers, that's great news! That means she's free to disperse them without any legal consequences now, right? Hopefully?
I'm not sure. I know she was unable to take two job offers as per the contract she signed at her former employer prohibited her from being able to take them.

Yea, it is just that. A dependency. However, I used the word addiction because of how people view or understand the words. They act similar regardless if it is the actual product they are dependent on or some type of by-product created mentally. They still can and will control ones life. Which is why I chose to use the word addicted as most here would not make that connection. If you just say dependent to most people they don't make the same connection they do with addiction.(all though in most cases the results are similar to the person addicted/dependent)

 
off topic, but has anyone used the sub box to securely move some herb in there car? hahaha i have a 3hr drive whensday and was considering putting the sack inside my sealed 10in. WOuld the pressure the sub puts out have an affect on my stash? lol its dank so i dont wanna compress it

 
weed can be mentally addicting (in the sense of want not need) to some people but that is not a true addiction like has been discussed. There is no chemical need for weed once you stop so there are no withdrawals from it. But, there may be the urge after a long period of time because you miss all the fun you had and remember how it felt.

 
On a quick side note...

I was talking with Amber just a sec ago. Smoking in the way that most of you do(roll it up or pipes) from studies can and normally does have traces of carcinogens in the smoke. Using a..lets say a water bong as a filter or even a vaporizer prevents a large amount of that. However, that lowers the THC levels requiring you to need/want more for the same affect you are used to.

That is what she just told me.. I personal have no knowledge of this and never looked into the idea of the smoke itself causing harm. I can see/understand that though.

 
i dont think water filters out THC, water pipes are suppose to provide you with 99% of thc, pipes around 85% and papers/blunts 40% or atleaste thats what ive read. I dont think a bowl from my pipe gets me higher then my bong, its just a fuller flavor

****I cant get cancer from smoking weed! I use a bong, it filters out all the bad stuff!!!!

 
I'm not sure. I know she was unable to take two job offers as per the contract she signed at her former employer prohibited her from being able to take them.

Yea, it is just that. A dependency. However, I used the word addiction because of how people view or understand the words. They act similar regardless if it is the actual product they are dependent on or some type of by-product created mentally. They still can and will control ones life. Which is why I chose to use the word addicted as most here would not make that connection. If you just say dependent to most people they don't make the same connection they do with addiction.(all though in most cases the results are similar to the person addicted/dependent)
The only real difference between the two is that with dependency, you can get psychiatric help and still divulge. People need to understand the difference between dependency and addiction or they might turn out like fullwoofer. Unfortunately, I've seen worse. I know worse. With dependency, your mind(for whatever reason) creates it. That doesn't mean that dependency isn't real. I know its real; I'll admit that I have a somewhat unnatural dependency on the internets. What that does mean is that it's reversible.

Here's a hypothetical situation(fullwoofer, along with everyone else who doesn't know the difference between addiction and dependency, read this):

Marge is twelve years old and she just got her first period. Unfortunately, her parents are divorced and she lives with her father. He's a drunk, and while he would never physically beat his daughter, he has no problem spouting off whatever he feels. And like I said, he's always drunk. Now, Marge doesn't know what to do. She's worried because this is a somewhat early age to start having a period -- and her mother wasn't expecting a divorce and didn't take the time to teach Marge what a period is.

She eventually works up the courage to ask her father if something is wrong, and he just laughs at her face. He then throws a bottle at her, scaring her even more.

Marge spends nearly three whole days in and out of the bathroom, bleeding the entire time. What's worse, she has a hormonal imbalance that causes her to lose more blood than the average female. What Marge finds is that when she eats, she feels better. As the next few days pass of nonstop eating, she starts to notice a decrease in blood loss, and she regains some strength and vigor.

Fast forward six years. Marge is now an eighteen year old woman, and she knows all about periods. The only problem is that she weighs 295 pounds, and is obese. She still eats in excess, especially when she's unhappy. This is called a dependency, and while she doesn't know it -- it can be fixed.

Once she gets to college, she meets a man. They fall madly in love, and he treats her with as much respect as he possibly can. Because of her issues, however, she gets angry with him for things she perceives. If she says, "I love you," and he doesn't respond, she feels threatened and eats. After a few months of this, the man(we'll call him Harry) contacts a psychiatrist. He tells the psychiatrist about his girlfriend's past, and her current condition. The psychiatrist agrees that Marge should be helped.

After four years of intensive therapy, Marge is now a successful businesswoman maintaining a healthy weight and a healthy mind.

Addiction hypothetical:

Margery(not to be confused with Marge) is out with friends. She smokes methamphetamine because her friends say it's fun. She feels an incredible euphoria that she's never felt before. What's worse, the next day, she feels.... odd. She doesn't feel like Margery. As the day goes on, she begins to brighten back up, but in the back of her mind she's thinking about methamphetamine.

That weekend, Margery tries it again. This time, she spends three days strung out. When she finally crashes(because they ran out of meth and couldn't get any), she feels absolutely horrible. This isn't because her mind told her that meth felt really awesome so she needed to do it again. It's because of what the meth did to receptors in her brain.

 
On a quick side note...

I was talking with Amber just a sec ago. Smoking in the way that most of you do(roll it up or pipes) from studies can and normally does have traces of carcinogens in the smoke. Using a..lets say a water bong as a filter or even a vaporizer prevents a large amount of that. However, that lowers the THC levels requiring you to need/want more for the same affect you are used to.

That is what she just told me.. I personal have no knowledge of this and never looked into the idea of the smoke itself causing harm. I can see/understand that though.
If the waterpipe was filled with alcohol(believe me, this shit happens), that would be true. THC doesn't bind with H2O. Waterpipes do, however, filter out unwanted carcinogens. You can also buy carbon filters to purify the smoke more, but that gets expensive. Vaporizers are the absolute best way to ingest THC because you can control the temperature at which the plant matter is subjected to. You can find the exact temperatures at which different cannabinoids vaporize, which is much lower than the temperature at which the plant matter will catch flame.

Vaporizers are also the most efficient way to ingest THC, for the same reason and a few others. No chemical is lost, and no chemical is degraded from too much heat.

 
[in response to the bolded statement] Actually, that's not true. The correct way of saying that would be that people can become dependent on anything. I know, it probably seems like I'm busting some unnecessary balls here; but the fact is that substances can be addictive. Many substances are(caffeine, alcohol, meth, cocaine, to name a few). However, it's a misnomer to say people can become addicted to anything when not everything is addictive.
For more on that, read the last post I made.

About the papers, that's great news! That means she's free to disperse them without any legal consequences now, right? Hopefully?
dude you sound liek a jackass, educate yourself before speaking. my mother is a drug abuse counselor, i emailed this post to her and she said she laughed for a good 5 minutes.

 
i dont think water filters out THC, water pipes are suppose to provide you with 99% of thc, pipes around 85% and papers/blunts 40% or atleaste thats what ive read. I dont think a bowl from my pipe gets me higher then my bong, its just a fuller flavor


****I cant get cancer from smoking weed! I use a bong, it filters out all the bad stuff!!!!
I like how you with little to no understanding of what the big kids are talking about can say and I quote... "I can't get cancer from smoking weed".....

I have to error on the side with my wife on this one. Her studies in this field are not just for the fun it. She is employed(has been for years) as a pharmacist in a wide array of studies. Her doctrine degree holds more water to 99% of anyone then yours would.

 
If the waterpipe was filled with alcohol(believe me, this shit happens), that would be true. THC doesn't bind with H2O. Waterpipes do, however, filter out unwanted carcinogens. You can also buy carbon filters to purify the smoke more, but that gets expensive. Vaporizers are the absolute best way to ingest THC because you can control the temperature at which the plant matter is subjected to. You can find the exact temperatures at which different cannabinoids vaporize, which is much lower than the temperature at which the plant matter will catch flame.
Vaporizers are also the most efficient way to ingest THC, for the same reason and a few others. No chemical is lost, and no chemical is degraded from too much heat.

I'm not sure what she meant by a water bong and filtering THC I was under the exact same impression. I wanted to ask more questions but she was getting upset with me for not discussing our holiday plans haha.

 
i dont think water filters out THC, water pipes are suppose to provide you with 99% of thc, pipes around 85% and papers/blunts 40% or atleaste thats what ive read. I dont think a bowl from my pipe gets me higher then my bong, its just a fuller flavor


****I cant get cancer from smoking weed! I use a bong, it filters out all the bad stuff!!!!
water doesnt realyl filter anything. the point of a water bong is to cool the smoke down. weed has almost 500 different carcinogens in it, cigs have less than half that. and ur pipe gets you higher because there is less airspace so you get more concentrated smoke by volume.

 
water doesnt realyl filter anything. the point of a water bong is to cool the smoke down. weed has almost 500 different carcinogens in it, cigs have less than half that
She did say that water will cool the smoke down allowing the user to not have as bad of a "coughing fit" from burning their throat with hot smoke.

 
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