Need someone with some XXX knowledge here!!

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

The guy I bought it from keeps saying he wants me to put power from an amp to it. Is it safe to say this thing isn't going to move and I will be wasting my time given I put 12V to it and it didn't move?

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

BTW.... This is an 05 not an 06.

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

i believe putting power to it may damage the motor, if it is indeed shifted/seized.

correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

It appears he is trying to snake out of refunding the funds. Now he is trying to turn it into I did something wrong. Like maybe putting 12V to it did it in. If this motor is locked up whos problem is it, seller, shipper, buyer? Remind me or kick me in the nuts if you ever see me attempt to buy something used //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif I usually only buy new regardless of what it is and should have done so this time. Live and learn! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[Decipha 10+ year member]

just get it reconed and call it a day.. how much did you pay for it?

btw both of my xxx's move freely with no problems

 

[90accordman 5,000+ posts]

why dont you post some pics of the motor so peopoel can see if its shifted or nt, My XXX move freely too when i push on them

 

[JLAudioCavalier 10+ year member]

No box damage, no visible damage or misalignment on the motor, and the seller is trying to say "give it amp power before assuming its broken" after you tested it.. AND blames your testing for the damage that it had prior to testing... I say she's melted/frozen in place... thus deducting that the previous owner fried his XXX and is now trying to make some dough for new sub(s) by selling his visible undamaged, but entirely useless paper weight....

 

[loserpunk 10+ year member]

most likely the motor was misaligned when he shipped it if there was no damage to the crate/box, and no amp power won't make any diff. than using a 9v batt etc both will do the same thing, and there is no point hookin up an amp, letting the coil rub and scratch it's way to death, i'd get your money back or work out some sort of deal w/ him

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

With no physical signs of damage to the shipping container/box, you dont stand much chance of winning a claim against the shipping company. There is no evidence beyond a broken product that just as easily could have been sent that way to begin with, and probably was. Ive seen some pretty messed up packages from being dropped that the sub inside had still survived 100%, so I doubt they dropped the thing so hard the vc shifted so bad its now locked in place, and yet the crate shows zero sign of this trauma. Its almost definitely the shipper lying. Most likely way to 'seize' a motor is over heating it (not shifting the vc), this would be quite obvious when the sub is taken apart to recone. If the vc is melted, guess what... the shipper didn't do it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

why dont you post some pics of the motor so peopoel can see if its shifted or nt, My XXX move freely too when i push on them

I can take pictures tonight of it. I am not up on all the pieces so give me some direction.

A simple recone would probably do it I see but it was to be in excellent working condition as new... 10 hours.

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

So you guys can see how this has been going for me. I am following what you guys say and have done the 9V and 12V thing off batteries to positive and negative. No movement! Glad I didn't sell this here to someone first and actually had it checked first or I would have double explaining to do. E-mails:

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:04 AM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

I took two wires and stripped both ends. Ran the hot from + and - to ground. It didn't move. Did you phone the shop at the number below yet? Give them a call and they will explain it to you 100%. I am not an audiophile so I can't tell you what it is like they can. After you call them you let me know what you want me to do since this sub is no good at all to me. I definately want this back on its way to you by tomorrow since it is a paperweight at this point. I paid quick and did everything 100% correct. I only expect the same. I am no crook or have done one single thing with this sub other than put it on this audio shops counter and ask them to check it for DOA. The only other thing I did was last night run my own test trying to get it to move with voltage. Call me: 302

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From: Alex

Well how did you try to put 12V to it directly if you dont have the sub then?

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

I am not unhappy. Only that I took it straight to the audio shop and they said it is DOA. It hasn't been tampered with. Here is the shop's number:

1-410-620-

or toll free 1-800-620-

Audio Unlimited

Ask for the owner Jeff since he is the one that tested it and can fill you in on what he saw. While you have him on the phone ask him if he will put power to it for me this evening. I don't have terminals in my car like it takes. Mine are slip on so he is my only shot at getting power to it. I know it worked for you as you stated. It isn't here so I have no idea if something shifted or got messed up along the way but I am just stating what four people in that shop yesterday told me about the sub.

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From: Alex

Everything you are telling me just does not add up. How do you explain that it was working fine and now you are telling me the sub does not move at all? It just does not make sense. I promise if you send it back and I test it out and it does not work as you state and everything is how it was when shipped I will refund the money. Or you can save yourself the trouble and test it out yourself on an amp. If all you want is a refund because you were not happy with the purchase you should of just stated that. If I get the sub back and it looks like it has been tampered with then there is nothing I can do. It doesnt seem like you are acknowleding what I am telling you that it was working like it did new. I mean check my feedback, I dont sell junk.

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:02 AM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

I didn't see any damage to the box or crate at all. The shipping stuff is so nice I will just send it back again in that. I would rather you send the Pay-Pal back before I ship it to be fair. I wouldn't want to pay shipping again and have it leave hoping I get a refund later and have nothing to show.

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From: Alex

Like I said there was nothing wrong with the sub when it was shipped out, I tried it in my friends car and it ran fine. I als moved the cone in and out the coils moved fine the sub sounded fine and everything was ok. I am not sure what you are talking about. If you want ship it back and I will check it out and refund if what you are saying is correct. This sub was shipped in working condition, only way for it to be damaged was in shipping.

Alex

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

I only have an SE which is a couple of notches down. I tried putting 12 volts to it just now and it didn't move in or out. It should have. I would really rather just ship it back to you since I don't want to put power to it and be responsible for possibly more going wrong. Can you send the refund tomorrow by Noon and I will just ship it on my FedEx back.

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From: Alex

> Like I said, im not audio wiz either but I know that if one of the voice

> coils is bad the sub will not play, and it will sound like crap if it moves

> at all. This sub was playing perfectly, please hook it up to your amp if

> you have a XXX in your trunk now. Like I said I tested in in my friends

> car, it was working. The cone was moving, and played like it did when new.

> The only way I can see it being bad is if was damaged while shipping, but it

> was shipped in its original box...

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

These are in reverse order BTW:

Just send it back to me then, if it works I will send you a video showing so... I have no time today to call the store.

Alex

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:24 PM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

Okay but did you call them? They are totally friendly there and will explain it to you 100%. I hate to ask them again to hook it up. I feel like I would be pestering them since they checked it out yesterday at no charge. Call them please and see if they will for you. Just let them know you are the one that sold it to me and would to have it done before I ship it back tomorrow. I would feel better too but Jeff would have to take something out and wire it up to make it happen. He also may be afraid of hurting his equipment if it doesn't move or something. I don't know what happens to an amp when you do that and I don't want to have to buy an amp for him. FedEx wouldn't do a thing. They would come out and see no damage to the shipping stuff and deny any claim. The sub looks pretty as hell in fact but no visual damage exists.

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From: Alex

I understand what you are telling me that the coils dont move, but like I said I shipped it out working condition. There are two choices, either file a insurance case with fedex, or send it back to me and I will test it. If it does not work and it is in the exact same condition I will refund your money the. Thats it, I know this sub was working when I shipped it. Or you can test it yourself if they will not power it up and you will see it works. If it doesnt then it had to of happend while shipping.

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:02 PM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

Isn't here at my work. Did you call the shop? Rather than e-mailing back and forth just give me a call. The shop tested it with a multimeter there and also said it should have movement which it didn't. I tested it with 12 volts last night at home on my own. Forward your phone number and I will call you. I think we can both agree that an audio shop that has been in business for a long time and sees them day in and day out would be the best source to tell you and I if it is DOA. I usually never ever buy something used but I tried on this one since the 06's are expensive as hell. I won't do it again and would just like to send this back for a refund. I don't know what is so difficult in this since it arrived, I did what any person getting something like this should do... take it straight to an audio shop for DOA testing. It turned out to be DOA. What could I have done on my end to it? Please call shop first and me second so this can be explained in great detail . Thanks!

 

[JLAudioCavalier 10+ year member]

i revert back to my origional thread... he is a crook plain and simple.

the reason he doesn't "trust" you to send it back if he refunds first is because he can't be trusted himself.

He wants to you to send it back, so instead of having your money in exchange of his blown sub, he has both... and can rip someone else off with the same bogus product. If paypal wont help, and if he wont refund you, there are legal steps you can take.

HE HAS NO TIME TO CALL THE STORE BUT HE HAS TIME TO MAKE YOU PAY RETURN SHIPPING, ACCEPT AND SIGN FOR THE PACKAGE, AND TEST IT HIMSELF, VIDEO TAPE IT WORKING(OR NOT WORKING), AND THEN PACK IT UP AND SHIP IT TO YOU AGAIN??!?!?!?!?!?!

scammers piss me right the fuck off!

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

I hate bothering the shop again. They are extremely busy right now with the weather change to deal with my problem. Given that is it 100% safe to say that hooking it up to an amp won't free this thing up to where it will work again? My fear is $30.00 to ship it back to him and if he can get it to work somehow. Then I am out another $30.00. Not terrible but more bleeding! Worse case he keeps it all and I am SOL!

 

[Intercooler 10+ year member]

Afraid of the phone //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Its not necessary, if its DOA its DOA. I will test it when it gets here to make sure and send you the refund then.

Alex

----- Original Message -----

From: intercooler2@comcast.net

To: Alex

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: Question for item #150099478309 - Resonant Engineering 15" in XXX Subwoofer Sub RE Audio

If you want to forward your number I will have him call you. Should only take a minute.