need some home buying advice

Property Tax is the real killer, as well as Insurance That will be the determination of if the place is worth buying or not/school taxes are a killer,and paid weather you have one in the system or not.Location is key for a future sale in mind,as well as looking at the surrounding sales for $ per Sq ft sold,Flood Planes.Sometimes you may be able to find a foreclosure to bid on that will have equity just by purchase
Property taxes on the homes I've been looking at range from 1200 on the low end to 2700 a year on the high end. Around here it's dependent on location and the closer you get to a town the more expensive they are. Although I'd rather live in the country anyway. Taxes just make what I want less affordable. The last house I put an offer on had 2700$ per year property tax, this adds 225$ a month to my mortgage payment.

 
Honestly, and this may be totally regional, but I have had a far superior return on investment with a combination of savings/IRA's/401k with the difference between my rent and what my mortgage was, then I ever had owning my house, not to mention there is no HOA fees / dealing with taking care of the house / cutting the lawn / upgrading or improving aging bits etc.

 

In my experience, yes, when renting I am not gaining anything on that money, but I am spending a GREAT deal less along with having a lot less work to maintain, all while saving much more and gaining far more on investments and having more time to work on SSA and personal things.

 
Honestly, and this may be totally regional, but I have had a far superior return on investment with a combination of savings/IRA's/401k with the difference between my rent and what my mortgage was, then I ever had owning my house, not to mention there is no HOA fees / dealing with taking care of the house / cutting the lawn / upgrading or improving aging bits etc.  

In my experience, yes, when renting I am not gaining anything on that money, but I am spending a GREAT deal less along with having a lot less work to maintain, all while saving much more and gaining far more on investments and having more time to work on SSA and personal things.
True. But With the housing market on the rise at the rate that it is I think if I can afford a house comfortably I'll be able to flip it and make a decent profit down the road. Provided the economy doesn't take a **** again or anything like that. That's my thought process at this point.

 
my house is paid for, but its worth noting.. if you own a home, you own the problems too. last month my central ac went out. $8500 later, we're going again. (new ac, furnace, and some ducting). things like this happen. a roof can be $15k. rent dude. unless you have $20 k set aside for in case stuff, just rent and save. also, most home loans require money down. every one I knew (that had to finance a house) put $10-20k down.
I understand that it's the same with owning a vehicle you've got to maintain it and that costs money. But all of that will be noted with a thorough inspection. Renting makes sense for some people but I can't justify it. Sorta like leasing a vehicle that doesn't make much sense to me either. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

 
And you have absolutely zero control over your environment. When I want new granite countertops, I buy them.

Why? Because my constant real talk solid advice keeps falling on deaf ears like yours? I gave you your entire solution.
You didn't give me a solution to anything I don't have a problem. Just looking for some advice from people that have been there done that. I want to be as prepared as possible when the time comes. A little knowledge never hurt anybody.

 
I don't know exactly what you're asking for but here's a few things that may be helpful.

First, I will address the notion that renting is somehow better than owning and vice versa. When you rent a home, make no mistakes... you ARE paying property taxes and you are paying for the maintenance and upkeep on the home. The only difference between owning and renting in that respect is that you aren't required to come up with $2,500.00 on short notice when the AC or furnace fails. However, you are paying for those repairs whether they occur or not, as a part of your monthly rents. This is a simple question of economics... a real estate investor is no different than a woofer manufacturer. They have to include ALL costs into the rental price (including property taxes) and they have to add a certain amount of buffer over and above hard costs and profit, in order to pay for big ticket repair items. If they don't do that, they won't be profitable and will eventually go out of business.

The idea that owning is better or vice versa is purely a subjective one and it is different for each person in each situation. If you're not mechanically inclined or you don't have time to do maintenance on a home, you might be better off renting. Or, maybe your job requires that you move from place to place every year or so. In those cases, renting makes the most sense. However, if you have a job that will likely never require travel and you have either the knowledge and/or financial resources to pay foe maintenance as it's needed, then buying is probably better. In the end, there is no right or wrong in economics... there is only subjective best choices based on circumstance.

Also, the notion that everyone should own a home is preposterous. Everyone who wants to own a home should strive for home ownership but those who don't own their homes are no better or worse than people who do, if that's what works best for them. Do what works best for you and ignore the advice of bigots.

As for paying off a home as opposed to having it mortgaged... having a home paid for opens you up to potential losses that a mortgage can protect you from. For instance, if someone gets killed on your property or if you are sued for any reason and are found to be liable, a owned home becomes accessible by those creditors. Doesn't matter if it's all your fault or none your fault either... all that matters is that a judgement has been issued against your assets. But, mortgaged real property is not accessible by creditors due to the fact that there are others who already have a legitimate claim to said property.

There is also the cash layout to be considered. A 15 year mortgage will consume more of your ready cash each month than a 30 year mortgage, so from an economic standpoint, the shorter term loan costs more to service and leaves you with less cash with which to make other investments that could potentially net you a profit over and above the amount you're saving by not taking out a 30 year note.

By opting for a thirty year note you can look at the money paid in interest as a loan that allows you to have more cash on hand in the here and now. And of course, when you borrow money, you pay the lender a profit.

Personally, I will probably always opt for a thirty year note, as it allows for a lot more freedom in the here and now and you can't look 25 years down the road at what you might be able to do with that saved money.... aside from actually saving it.

Another very important thing to consider is the purchase price of the home. Buying a home at market price is not a good way to start an investment. Especially if you don't have a lot of money to put down, as when you do so you put your entire investment at the mercy of the stock market. Homes do not and, frankly, should not always rise in value and as we saw in 2008, when you have little or no equity in a mortgaged asset, you are locked into paying for something that costs more than it's worth. Thus, if you find yourself needing to sell it, you are in a lot of trouble. This is evidenced, again, by the various housing market crashes we have seen in the last century. The most recent being in 2008.

If you want to buy a home, shop the market well and loosen your criteria as much as possible. There are a lot of homes on the market and each and every seller has a different reason for selling. There are plenty of motivated sellers out there who have a home they need to sell and who can afford to take a loss on the sale simply to get rid of a headache. So... don't be afraid to make an offer that's well below market value. You aren't insulting the seller by doing so, you're simply telling them what you need and asking them if your needs and theirs can be met at that price.

 
Very useful and informative post. Very good point. Especially the low bidding part. Problem with that is I see a lot of homes getting snatched up as soon as they're put on the market with an offer at or above the asking price

 
Very useful and informative post. Very good point. Especially the low bidding part. Problem with that is I see a lot of homes getting snatched up as soon as they're put on the market with an offer at or above the asking price
im 22 and was pre-approved for 200k myself, or 175k with cash back.

if your 20 and can already afford a house kudos to you, my goal is 25 though, that is when insurance becomes cheaper and i will have a atleast 10k needed for a down payment on a 150k house (5%). and on 150k with 5% my mortgage would be $750, without the 5% it would be $850, and thats not including utilities and whatever else. i plan on buying and possibly renting out the basement or something when the time comes to make it easier to pay off my mortgage.

id like to know what you do for a living to be able to afford one already.. haha

 
True. But With the housing market on the rise at the rate that it is I think if I can afford a house comfortably I'll be able to flip it and make a decent profit down the road. Provided the economy doesn't take a **** again or anything like that. That's my thought process at this point.
You are right, I bought my 1st house a bit over 3 years ago. Just sold it last week, made a bit over my annual salary. Which all that money is now going into another house. I'm sure in a few I will end up doing the same thing.

 
Very useful and informative post. Very good point. Especially the low bidding part. Problem with that is I see a lot of homes getting snatched up as soon as they're put on the market with an offer at or above the asking price
Low bidding doesn't work, if it does it will be cuz no one else is bidding on it.

 
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