Need opinions from the SQ bisches.....

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

i guess they don't need big subs to make up for it.

If that's what crosses your mind, then you have more of a problem than i do.

 

[Vestax 10+ year member]

If that's what crosses your mind, then you have more of a problem than i do.

That he understands more about sound quality than you do? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

MikeB - the point of my posts is to let you know that tuning your system to sound halfway decent will be a nightmare without some powerful DSP at your fingertips. Anyone can add a dedicated midbass, but to get it to sound correct (like you have litterally one speaker beyond the center of your windshield that spans from pillar to pillar) it a TOTALLY different story.

Think I haven't been there? Why do you think I say these things? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

The title of your post was "opinions from SQ bisches". Is it that i'm not enough of a "bisch" for you? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

I wouldnt say necessarily cocky but most of them have years of experience and after that amount of time in this industry you tend to get a little worn out by so many know it all noobs. (not saying the op or even anyone in this thread, just saying....)
But if you really are building a sq car, i would redo the door panels and start from scratch. Placement and installation is much more important than drivers. I think we can all agree on this. From there you will most likely need to test multiple placements and compare. Then start building. Then tweak. Then start over with new drivers....

See why it can wear on people? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I completely understand.

Dont worry though, it isnt going to be anywhere near a sq car or anything. Its just a personal 'sql' oriented setup for my tastes. Im building it to look cool, be functional and impress. At some point I would like to take it out to some local shows just for fun.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

MikeB - the point of my posts is to let you know that tuning your system to sound halfway decent will be a nightmare without some powerful DSP at your fingertips. Anyone can add a dedicated midbass, but to get it to sound correct (like you have litterally one speaker beyond the center of your windshield that spans from pillar to pillar) it a TOTALLY different story.
Think I haven't been there? Why do you think I say these things? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I understand and I trust what you say is true. After listening to what other members have told me so far thats really how it is getting to sound now. Im very happy with it. But it would **** to loose that balance by throwing in all the mid-bass.

Well then.....what should I do?

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Im very happy with it.

Well then.....what should I do?

Im very happy with it.

Nothing.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

If its just for you I personally would use your existing speakers for right now as mid/midbass. Have both on each side crossed the same and play with the settings for awhile. Not saying a couple of hours but weeks, or months. Get it to where you think you cant get it to sound any better, then and only then would I worry about adding 3 way active up front.

Your case is a little different since you want to use your existing pods (which look really nice btw) so its not a completely clean slate which is usually easier to jump into something as intensive as up front three way active. Start small and work your way up. You will be happier and much less frustrated.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

Nothing.

Lol, well Im saying with where Im at. Im only running a single set of mids (the ones angled at me) and my tweets in my a-pillars. Only half-way done. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

If its just for you I personally would use your existing speakers for right now as mid/midbass. Have both on each side crossed the same and play with the settings for awhile. Not saying a couple of hours but weeks, or months. Get it to where you think you cant get it to sound any better, then and only then would I worry about adding 3 way active up front.
Your case is a little different since you want to use your existing pods (which look really nice btw) so its not a completely clean slate which is usually easier to jump into something as intensive as up front three way active. Start small and work your way up. You will be happier and much less frustrated.

After driving around with what I have for the past month Ive really gotten it sounding good thanks to the advice I got on tuning it.

After initially running dual mids though I really want that mid-bass back. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

Well, to be completely honest, I just went ran up to the store and upon looking over my work with my doors....I really just dont want to change the look at all.

I think Im just going to run with what I have now as a mid-range/mid-bass.

Once I vinyl the doors they are just going to look too cool imo.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

It wont hurt to try it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

It wont hurt to try it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

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[dftnz7 10+ year member]

why not go with a compact dome style midrange that will take up basically no room? They generally are efficient too, and won't require the effort and space a woofer will.

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Dude, for the amount of money and effort you have put into this, you could have just bought a single component set and had it installed correctly in the first place. Don't bother with 3 way dual midbass setups; you just end up spending more on the speakers and more on the amps and after all that you're screwed because you don't have the processing to T/A and EQ all of those speakers independently - which you need to, if you do anything like you took a picture of. If you want crazy midbass... You're talking about 300$ just for the speakers you linked above, plus amping those channels, plus your existing tweeters, amps...

Just go buy a set of rainbow power line cs or vanadiums, or a set of comparable quality, and be done with it. T/A the tweets and woofers and get them installed properly, and you will have gobs of midbass and good SQ for a flat price and 4 channels of amping. If you are looking for an SQ install, 'trying to avoid re-doing anything' is not going to serve your purposes; it'll simply result in a hacked together installation that leaves much to be desired.

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Dude, for the amount of money and effort you have put into this, you could have just bought a single component set and had it installed correctly in the first place. Don't bother with 3 way dual midbass setups; you just end up spending more on the speakers and more on the amps and after all that you're screwed because you don't have the processing to T/A and EQ all of those speakers independently - which you need to, if you do anything like you took a picture of. If you want crazy midbass... You're talking about 300$ just for the speakers you linked above, plus amping those channels, plus your existing tweeters, amps...
Just go buy a set of rainbow power line cs or vanadiums, or a set of comparable quality, and be done with it. T/A the tweets and woofers and get them installed properly, and you will have gobs of midbass and good SQ for a flat price and 4 channels of amping. If you are looking for an SQ install, 'trying to avoid re-doing anything' is not going to serve your purposes; it'll simply result in a hacked together installation that leaves much to be desired.

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[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

For a second I thought that was Polish, then realized that you hang from the ceiling like a bat.