Need opinions, 2 12" Arrrggghhs vs Fi Q 18

[rollingthunder 10+ year member]

I have an oppourtunity to purchase either 2 12" type r's or a Fi Q 18 with a ported box. The Alpines would be about 160ish and the Fi is 250, i need some opinions on what to get, have an MTX 81000d for power, looking to move lots of air, dont care about numbers, just loud as balls to the ear, need to make a deision asap, thanks in advance

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[denim 5,000+ posts]

I would prefer the Q.

 

[rollingthunder 10+ year member]

Thanks for the input, any one else?

 

[jco1385 5,000+ posts]

go with the q

 

[revrider1 5,000+ posts]

I would say the Q also...

 

[05gliguy 10+ year member]

x4, on the Q

 

[bk12321 10+ year member]

im not really sure which would be louder....

the 18 has cone area advantage but the type-rs are SPL subs and the Q is not...

but the Q will sound lightyears better, and having an 18 is just ballin. go for the Q

 

[seedubs1 10+ year member]

Why the Q instead of the BL?

The Q:

ebp=27.8

Qts=.57

The BL:

ebp=66.3

Qts=.46

The BL is more suited for ported boxes than the Q is. If I were him, I would go with the BL. The BL has a stronger motor than the Q, and it will do him better for a ported box sub that he wants to get loud with. This is, of course assuming he is set on Fi.

I'd say wait for the new AQ HDc3 to come out. It will be cheap, get loud, and sound decent.

 

[rollingthunder 10+ year member]

Well, that was pretty clear, so basically the Q will be almost as loud and sound 100x better? I dont care if every person on earth has R's, if they are good then so be it. But I wanna be ballin so hopefully the 18 will be mine. BTW, are Q's not meant for ported boxes? That last statement threw me a little, ive seen ROE vids and they look plenty loud, but then again a vid of a sub doesnt really tell anything, thanks

 

[bk12321 10+ year member]

Well, that was pretty clear, so basically the Q will be almost as loud and sound 100x better? I dont care if every person on earth has R's, if they are good then so be it. But I wanna be ballin so hopefully the 18 will be mine. BTW, are Q's not meant for ported boxes? That last statement threw me a little, ive seen ROE vids and they look plenty loud, but then again a vid of a sub doesnt really tell anything, thanks

Q's are a little more suited for sealed boxes, but ive heard good things from owners of both ported and sealed Q setups sooooo I dunno....

I dont think it would be a bad idea to port one... but there are better choices of subs for a ported box I guess

 

[seedubs1 10+ year member]

Well, that was pretty clear, so basically the Q will be almost as loud and sound 100x better? I dont care if every person on earth has R's, if they are good then so be it. But I wanna be ballin so hopefully the 18 will be mine. BTW, are Q's not meant for ported boxes? That last statement threw me a little, ive seen ROE vids and they look plenty loud, but then again a vid of a sub doesnt really tell anything, thanks

If you are definately porting it, and are not going to be sealing it, go with the BL. It is better suited for a ported box than the Q. The Q is a great all around driver if you might be sealing it at some point, but if you are definately not going to seal it, get the BL.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

what kinda power does that amp put out?

if its less than 1400 or so go with a Q.

the BL is STIFFFFF as ****. in fact it has a stiffer suspension than the btl. needs a good deal of power to really get moving.

they do get pretty loud though, providing you have the power.

 

[Steelemayne 10+ year member]

i would have to say go with the Q.