need more midbass!

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

hi guys i have the following system:

2x RE SE ported off 2000w (gains turned down)

us amps tu600 -> front comps most likely will be ID CSX 64 or Hertz HSK 165s

but i dont think either comps will be able to produce enough midbass to keep up with the subs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif im thinking another set of comps in the rear should help or a 2x 8" midbasses but that would take the soundstage back further :S

the tu600 is 2ch so is there *somehow* i can set different hpf/lpf for the rears/fronts or is this impossible?

what would you do?!!?

thanks guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

(cars an alfa romeo 147 hatchback if it makes a difference)

phrozen

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[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

ya, you can always go for 7-8" woofers in the doors, thats what im doing

partsexpress.com has dayton 7" woofers for like 35 bucks

 

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

i just had a look and it says they're for home audio? does that make a difference?

thanks for replyin!

phrozen

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

just get the 4ohm version , it will be fine for car audio

 

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

cheers Twistid //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[bdavies11 10+ year member]

ya, you can always go for 7-8" woofers in the doors, thats what im doing
partsexpress.com has dayton 7" woofers for like 35 bucks

What about Tang bands 6.5 woofers? Would they be just as good if not a better choice than the Daytons for midbass?

 

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

dayton/tang band are not really popular here in the uk at all...so i have no idea!!

 

[B_Campbell 10+ year member]

If you want lots of midbass build a little ported enclosure for what ever you get, I will throw my recommendations in here. The daytons are nice, I like these, but they cost alot more than the daytons. Gotta love the american made DD mids, they are monsters...

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

i just had a look and it says they're for home audio? does that make a difference?
thanks for replyin!

phrozen

No not at all, but they make a 4 ohm car audio version. For what it's worth my Peerless mids are home audio drivers, but they do wonders in car //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Also, about the daytons, be careful about the 7's, with the aluminum cone they don't play very well above 2k hz.

On a side note, if you're worried about not having enough midbass, the single best thing you could do is sound deaden your doors, that will improve midbass response immensely.

 

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

thanks for the replies guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

in the front doors im going to dynamat the outter skin then sludge,seal the whole door up with dynamat then sludge ontop of that. Hopefully that will bring out maximum midbass- just wondering if that will be enough to keep up with 2 ported subs?

the DD mids look tasty but in the uk we have to go through some dd africa website and its just too complicated!! how much are they in the states? are they just small subs or specificially designed mids? Also was looking at the old XXX mids, theres a 2nd hand set going for £180 (~$360) which look interesting?

thanks a lot guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

phrozen

 

[mike dressure 10+ year member]

look into some powerbass 3xl comp's they have great midbass response! there is a few places where you can get them cheap!

 

[SaturnSC1 10+ year member]

Powerbass 3XL component sets? How exactly do they sound, because i'm in need of some new speakers. Or maybe you can direct me to a detailed review of some sort. Plz and thanx.

 

[phrozen_lad 10+ year member]

im not sure how big spl dynamics are in the states but i just found these cheap here in the uk http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/dynamics-sd81-p-5519.html?cadid=a480d6c3d16af2df83e3458a7ebf60de

anyone used them? look alright,decent sensitivity,play 45-5000hz, and only £59.99 for a pair!!

 

[djdilliodon 10+ year member]

Can you build a sealed pod or does the driver need to perform well IB ?

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

thanks for the replies guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
in the front doors im going to dynamat the outter skin then sludge,seal the whole door up with dynamat then sludge ontop of that. Hopefully that will bring out maximum midbass- just wondering if that will be enough to keep up with 2 ported subs?

the DD mids look tasty but in the uk we have to go through some dd africa website and its just too complicated!! how much are they in the states? are they just small subs or specificially designed mids? Also was looking at the old XXX mids, theres a 2nd hand set going for £180 (~$360) which look interesting?

thanks a lot guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

phrozen

Your door plans sound good, one other step I suggest is buying some closed cell foam, and lining both your inner and outer door skins with it. The foam is used to absorb road noise, and supposedly helps reduce standing waves.

I did something similar to you, but I have two layers of raammat on the outer skin, then a layer of closed cell foam, and one layer of raammat on the inner door skin, the doors are solid as a rock right now, I can almost get away with out a sub, I say almost, while the mids play great down to 50hz there's that whole bottom end that I'm missing, and a single 12 will fill that void //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif.

I'm not sure about the DD mids, I don't know much about them other than they look beefy however, from what I've heard the old XXX mids are pretty much sealed only drivers, and you'll probably end up disappointed if you run them IB in your doors.