Need help understanding some stuff plz !!!!!

[vvblazers777 10+ year member]

the same person who paid 1400 for them?

owned. ha

 

[ThatChevyGuy 5,000+ posts]

 

[ThatChevyGuy 5,000+ posts]

sorry, i love the fail pics.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

sorry, i love the fail pics.

it is indeed a very nice pix //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SocMunky 10+ year member]

Also, what kind of box would you recommend for them? The people at Sound Advice said that if I just upgrade the subwoofers and the box (without purchasing the 2nd amp, and if in the future i would want a 2nd 500/1 for more power) then i would have to get the 2 subwoofers separated, so that the subwoofers dont throw each other off slighlty. Basically that idea wouldn't work because he said he couldnt wire the 2 subwoofers to the same 500/1 if they were separated, so he said that i would have to keep them open in the same box (the new box i have them built that is) and only upgrade to a 1000/1. Is it better to have 1 amp over two? I know 2 amps would push a lil more power, but is there any advantage in having the big 1000/1?

That bolded part just boggles the mind....so long as the 500/1 can support the ohm load of your two woofers wired in mono, then the box design makes no difference whatsoever. At least, not in any way I have EVER heard of....

Now, your question is run one amp to both subs or a seperate amp to both subs. For simplicities sake, I would go with just one amp. However, you need to figure out a few things. How much is one new 500/1? If you sold your current 500/1, how much more money would you need to get the 1000/1? Whichever of those two options is cheaper is what I would reccomend to you. If its really close, then ite the bullet and go for the 1000/1.

But ffs, don't go back to that sound advice, they have proven themselves to be unqualified time and time again.....

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

yea i would suggest never going to that shop again they are dumb or just trying to screw you. It doesnt matter that you would have them in two seprate boxes (dumb idea by the way) they can still be wired to the same amp, all the matters is the ohm load presented at the amp. You will gain almost nothing just by switching subs, dont do it invest your money into come componenets and an amp

 

[spoonraker 10+ year member]

Since I'm not entirely sure specifically what you asked I'll just address a few different situations...

Scenario : You upgrade the subs to the 13s and keep the same 500/1

-No noticeable difference in SPL (SPL = Sound Pressure Level aka Volume/Loudness)

-No noticeable difference in SQ (Sound Quality)

-A new box won't necessarily have to be built unless you are right on the threshold of minimum airspace for your 12s.

Scenario : You upgrade to the 13s, and buy a second 500/1

-You will probably get a moderate increase in SPL

-No noticeable difference in SQ

-I'm not sure if JL slash series amps are strappable, but if they are, then you don't need a new box unless you have airspace concerns. If the amps are not strappable, then it would be wise to run each sub in a separate enclosure. It's not required, but a good idea, since the amps won't put out exactly the same signal...although you can get them close enough that it's not a big deal.

Scenario : upgrade the subs, sell the 500/1 and buy a 1000/1

-You should notice an increase in SPL

-No noticeable change in SQ

-You will not need a new box unless you have airspace concerns, both subs can be hooked to the single 1000/1, no need for separate enclosures.

Ok so what did we learn...

-"upgrading" the subs to the same woofer, just 1'' bigger in diameter, will not yield a noticeable change.

-Doubling the power to the subs will yield an SPL gain, but since it's basically the same amp/subs, just more power, you shouldn't notice a change in SQ

-Having two subwoofers in the same airspace is completely fine provided that both subs are receiving the same signal/power. Usually this can only be achieved by using one amp, or having two amps with the ability to be strapped together to operate as one.

 

[zack1442 10+ year member]

u stuipd man. who would sell 2 JL 12''w3v3's and a 500/1 amp that they just paid for

a smart person

 

[alias3r 10+ year member]

Since I'm not entirely sure specifically what you asked I'll just address a few different situations...
Scenario : You upgrade the subs to the 13s and keep the same 500/1

-No noticeable difference in SPL (SPL = Sound Pressure Level aka Volume/Loudness)

-No noticeable difference in SQ (Sound Quality)

-A new box won't necessarily have to be built unless you are right on the threshold of minimum airspace for your 12s.

Scenario : You upgrade to the 13s, and buy a second 500/1

-You will probably get a moderate increase in SPL

-No noticeable difference in SQ

-I'm not sure if JL slash series amps are strappable, but if they are, then you don't need a new box unless you have airspace concerns. If the amps are not strappable, then it would be wise to run each sub in a separate enclosure. It's not required, but a good idea, since the amps won't put out exactly the same signal...although you can get them close enough that it's not a big deal.

Scenario : upgrade the subs, sell the 500/1 and buy a 1000/1

-You should notice an increase in SPL

-No noticeable change in SQ

-You will not need a new box unless you have airspace concerns, both subs can be hooked to the single 1000/1, no need for separate enclosures.

Ok so what did we learn...

-"upgrading" the subs to the same woofer, just 1'' bigger in diameter, will not yield a noticeable change.

-Doubling the power to the subs will yield an SPL gain, but since it's basically the same amp/subs, just more power, you shouldn't notice a change in SQ

-Having two subwoofers in the same airspace is completely fine provided that both subs are receiving the same signal/power. Usually this can only be achieved by using one amp, or having two amps with the ability to be strapped together to operate as one.

that was awesome. u explained a lot to me. thank you so much //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

if i do decide to go with the upgrade, i will get the 1000/1 then. and i think the 13's are actually 13 1/2 inches, if that helps at all. the people said that the subwoofers will be able to hit slightly lower frequencies than the 12's i have now. if this is true, how much deeper/lower will they be able to hit? will it be significant?

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

even if u step up to 15s(which i know they don't make) u won't even notice a huge difference in SPL TBH

 

[alias3r 10+ year member]

yea i would suggest never going to that shop again they are dumb or just trying to screw you. It doesnt matter that you would have them in two seprate boxes (dumb idea by the way) they can still be wired to the same amp, all the matters is the ohm load presented at the amp. You will gain almost nothing just by switching subs, dont do it invest your money into come componenets and an amp

ya i really want to get some components too. i kind of want to get the extra bass taken care of first tho, but i still have time. i have until the end of march to get the upgrade if i decide to do it.

How much money would decent highs cost with an amp?

I kind of want to get JL components to match the subwoofers. Thats going to cost me around $1000 tho. Its a good amp tho. The one i was going to get was the 450/4v2. Im not exactly sure wat components i was going to get. They were around the $400-$600 price range tho.

one thing i hate about all this upgrading is im also going to have to buy 2 new batteries for my car, which is more money out of my pocket.

 

[alias3r 10+ year member]

even if u step up to 15s(which i know they don't make) u won't even notice a huge difference in SPL TBH

actually, i heard the 13w3v3's hit better than the 15'w3v2

 

[alias3r 10+ year member]

could anyone tell me how much louder (percent wise) the 13's will be with the 1000/1 than what i have now?

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

could anyone tell me how much louder (percent wise) the 13's will be with the 1000/1 than what i have now?

so ur asking if stepping from a 12" to a 13" using the same power will give u any change in SPL? My guess is 0.00000001%

But if ur going from a 500/1 to 1000/1 then ur looking at a theoritical 3dB gain since ur doubling the power

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

actually, i heard the 13w3v3's hit better than the 15'w3v2

different motors will often do that. I'm guessing the v3 would be better than the v2 of course