Thanks. It looks like the sundowns are basically retail price everywhere. On a side note, the vehicle for this system is old, so the front speakers are ancient factory crap. Now with the budget there's no way I can get another amp and quality fronts/high's, so is it worth it to grab a decent of fronts and run them off of radio power until my son can afford to get another amp and better speakers? I just don't know if the radio power and speakers are any better today than they used to be. If so, any suggestions on a pair of fronts that will be ok on radio power and maybe an amp later? The truck is 2001 F150, so I guess the doors are 5x7/6x8.