My first setup (newcomer) - Any advise appreciated!

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

I think the v2's are 500rms. Not that that is a whole hill of beans. They can take some juice.

Have they published them on their site yet? I only did a quick look but didn't see anything..

 

[TaylorFade 10+ year member]

I will upload the video soon... will take a while as it's 9+ minutes long but the results really speak for themselves.


We compared against a very well respected 2.5" coil driver rated for 600-watts RMS -- many people do run much more than that to this particular driver.

The comparison was done simply to give a reference point.

I was wondering if it was just me or if I wasn't even tickling this driver thermally with 800+ watts on tap in my car (SAX-200.4 two channels bridged at 2 ohms)... so the question is now answered -- I really wasn't even close to the thermal limits as this 60 Hz test is brutal with very little excursion. On music where the sub is moving 4-5x more the cooling is enhanced by more air movement. So that answered the question about whether my little spacer ring is or is not doing what I wanted it to do

So what this tells me is that I'll probably bump up my official rating to 500 RMS on the SA-8 v.2 -- and that the limit is really purely mechanical on them. I CAN get it to full x-mech on the 200.4 in my car at very low frequencies under box tuning.

Got this from one of his threads on the v2.

 

[miker 5,000+ posts]

V2 is 500rms

 

[AwesomeStranger 10+ year member]

So, I'm thinking about just buying 2 sa-8 v2's... I have a feeling I'll end up buying another in the future and don't want to waste $150 on a single channel amp. What amp should I go for?

If I went with just one sa-8 v2 would this build work good?

Sub: 1 sa-8 v.2

SA-8 V2 D4 SUNDOWN AUDIO SUB 8" DVC 4 OHM V2 VERSION 2 SERIES SUBWOOFER NEW | eBay

Amp: Powerbass ASA600.1X 600W Mono Block A-B Amplifier

Amazon.com: Powerbass ASA600.1X 600W Mono Block A-B Amplifier: Car Electronics

Wires? What else am I forgetting besides the box?

 

[xShoWTeKx 10+ year member]

sub is a little bit cheaper plus free shipping from SSA

SSA Store - Sundown Audio SA-8 Subwoofer

that amp looks pretty good i would personally spend a little bit more and get something for if you want to upgrade and get another 8 like you were talking about.

this is 1 that comes to mind.

AQ750 Amplifier

and here is a used 1 on the classifieds if you want to go that route

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifier-classifieds/546614-audioque-750-1-a.html

and knu is a great company at very great prices

4 gauge amplifier installation kit

this is a much better kit if you decide on a bigger amp

4 Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit

 

[AwesomeStranger 10+ year member]

So I should get a d4 sa-8 regardless?

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

PowerBass? PPI? Soundstream? WTF... flea market junk that doesnt do half rated power..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIFONICS-BRUTUS-BRZ1200-1D-1200W-MONO-D-Car-Amplifier-/350565229136?pt=Car_Amplifiers&hash=item519f50e250

This will do **** near 1200rms x 1 ohm, equal in power to that SAZ1200 you dont wanna get.. and way higher quality than anything called "Powerbass"

 

[AwesomeStranger 10+ year member]

PowerBass? PPI? Soundstream? WTF... flea market junk that doesnt do half rated power..

Well give me some sound advice then good sir. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

Well give me some sound advice then good sir. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I edited my post for ya.. do some research on Hifonics BRZ models. they do rated and you can find people who have clamped them to confirm that. I personally have heard friends/peoples kicker/rockford/sundown 1200 watt amps (400$+) and I'm not saying they arent high quality amps, but I cant justify spending double the price and not being able to notice any difference in sound quality or output

These are solid amps and for $150 it would blow that "Powerbass" out of the water

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_23548_Hifonics-Brutus-BRZ1200.1D.html

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

So I should get a d4 sa-8 regardless?

If you plan on upgrading to two subs, yes, because if you get a respectable decent amp it should be rated down to 1 ohm (two d4's = 1 ohm = most power you can get out of the amp)

You can always run it at 2 ohms or 4 ohms until you are ready get another sub to drop it down to 1 (depending on which one you get)

 

[xShoWTeKx 10+ year member]

PowerBass? PPI? Soundstream? WTF... flea market junk that doesnt do half rated power..
HIFONICS BRUTUS BRZ1200.1D 1200W MONO D Car Amplifier 806576216773 | eBay

This will do **** near 1200rms x 1 ohm, equal in power to that SAZ1200 you dont wanna get.. and way higher quality than anything called "Powerbass"

hifonics is ok for the price but please do not act like any maxxsonics product is head and shoulders above anything really.

 

[AwesomeStranger 10+ year member]

That hifonics amp will only power one sub, right? What RMS would the sa-8 run at?

I just purchased the d4 sa-8 v.2 so it should be here this week sometime I hope.

Now I need an amp, wiring, and to get a box or build my own?

Help this newbie out haha.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

hifonics is ok for the price but please do not act like any maxxsonics product is head and shoulders above anything really.

When did I say that? I was referring to PowerBass, PPI and soundstream. Which is complete junk...

Sundown SAX-1200 = 1200rms @ $600

Hifonics Brz 1200 = 1200rms @ $150

I personally have heard both on the same subs, and couldn't tell the difference.

If you can justify spending the extra 450$, by all means..

 

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That hifonics amp will only power one sub, right? What RMS would the sa-8 run at?
I just purchased the d4 sa-8 v.2 so it should be here this week sometime I hope.

Now I need an amp, wiring, and to get a box or build my own?

Help this newbie out haha.

No.. it can power as many subs as you want.. 1..2..5..12

you need an amp, wiring kit, and a box. Just buy a cheap prefab single 8" box until you get your second sub then custom build a dual box

 

[AwesomeStranger 10+ year member]

Sweet. I'll order that Hifonics amp. So is a 4 gauge kit ok? Amazon.com: KnuKonceptz KCA Complete 4 Gauge Amp Installation Kit: Car Electronics

Also how about this pre-fab box? Then I'm good to go, right?

This? 8" SINGLE PORTED L-VENTED 3/4 MDF SUBWOOFER SUB SPEAKER ENCLOSURE BOX | eBay

OR This? 8" SINGLE SQUARE 3/4 MDF .30 CU.FT. BLACK SUBWOOFER SUB ENCLOSURE BOX | eBay

 

[xShoWTeKx 10+ year member]

When did I say that? I was referring to PowerBass, PPI and soundstream. Which is complete junk...
Sundown SAX-1200 = 1200rms @ $600

Hifonics Brz 1200 = 1200rms @ $150

I personally have heard both on the same subs, and couldn't tell the difference.

If you can justify spending the extra 450$, by all means..

 

 

 

 

i didnt spend that much on my saz 1500 bought mine db-r refurbed for 300 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

 

but this is not junk by any means

WoofersEtc.com - REF4.760 - Soundstream 4 Ch. 760 Watt RMS Class A/B Reference Series Power Amplifier

 

nor is there x3 line