I'm sorry to say that you seem to be the hater right now. I have done nothing at all to bring any hostility out, I am actually bring logic and reason in here. You keep asking the same question over and over, while still getting the same answer. Just because somebody writes a review on a subwoofer that automatically makes them an expert on the subject correct? How do you know for a fact they actually bought the product? People do stupid stuff on the web for no good reason. We on the other hand, actually have experience in the field of car audio and some of us with the actual woofer itself. You just seem to be very loose with your insults and seem to believe random strangers who review stuff over people who have a background in the field.