i put my multi meter on my battery up front, while running, and it charges and stays at around 14-5volts. The other battery, using the same process reads around 12.7. Didnt kno if they should vary that much or not. Both batterys are BRAND new. Really not wanting to relocate my battery to the back, as it already has a place up front for the second one. I guess after work today, ill tie all my grounds together, and run them to the batteries, instead of the chassi ground. close to full tilt, it dosent ever go below 12-6 volts. so , guess ill do the grounds, and go from there. Thanks for all the help guys, and if you think of ne thing else, feel free to post it up! thanks, Ed