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[lilkman2202 10+ year member]

say i run the 6.5 silver flutes the vifa tweets and the silver flute 8". Whats a good xover. and points to cross them. Im more than likely buying those.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

No reason to run a 6.5" midrange if you plan on running an 8" dedicated mid as well. Your speakers are going to be off axis in the doors, so use a smaller diameter midrange that will cover the vocal range and work better off axis. Find a good 5.25" or 4" midrange that will play well off-axis up to 4-5khz and can go down to 200hz with authority, and you can pair an efficient, higher FS tweeter with it.

Here's some crossover points that would work well with a 3-way+sub, IMO.

63hz separating subs/midbasses

200hz to 250hz separating midbasses/midranges

4khz to 5khz separating midranges/tweeters

 

[lilkman2202 10+ year member]

would the silver flute 5.25 work better then in place of the 6.5? and what 3way xover should i look into.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

If you want to do a 3-way up front, then the midrange is going to be the most important piece of the puzzle, and will make the buggest impression as far as how good things sound.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

would the silver flute 5.25 work better then in place of the 6.5? and what 3way xover should i look into.

It should because you'll have better high end extension with the smaller cone. No 6.5" speaker is going to play well up to 4-5khz off axis in a car.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

In my opinion, grab a pair of the Exodus Anarchy mids right now at diycable.com for $65 each. The have a solid inch of clean excursion, so you get the bass/midbass output of a normal 8"er with the ability to cross higher like the 6.5" mid that it is...I've heard nothing but great things about them, and I grabbed a pair myself last night in case I can't make my 8" Morels work in my doors.

 

[lilkman2202 10+ year member]

okay so now i have the 3 speakers im going to run picked out and now i need a xover for them.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

You'll need something variable that you can adjust easily...isn't going to be cheap.

Or you could just get a normal 3-way component set.

 

[lilkman2202 10+ year member]

true maybe ill go for standard 3 way to start. What are we talking for a variable 3 way one though i may drop a little more to just get it rite the first time. examples would be appreciated too.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Don't get the cheapy Pyle or Legacy kind of stuff that's 60-70 bucks. Something like this will work nicely, and looks to be well built. It also has the ability to change the output level of each channel, so you can level match everything right there before you fine tune it on your radio with EQ and such.

XO3 MEMPHIS 3-WAY ELECTRONIC AMP AMPLIFIER CROSSOVER - eBay (item 130420709767 end time Jan-10-11 12:39:00 PST)

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

And I think there's one in an auction right now starting at $80 with no bids...stuff like this can go for cheap too since not a whole lot of people are in the market.

 

[the727kid 10+ year member]

just trying to keep up. I want it to sound somewhat good but SQ is not my goal. as it looks im looking to run 1 6.5, 1 tweet and 1 8" per door. Would like to find a xover for the 6.5s and tweets to run off. THen i can just cross the 8s off my amp.

If your trying to keep up then midbass probably isn't a huge deal. I would go with a high efficiency set up. What's your budget? Horns and a pair of solid mids will easily keep up with very loud systems. A 3 way does not mean it will be louder. And if you go three way active, you need crossovers, more amp power, wire, ect.

 

[gunz4me2 10+ year member]

Three way fronts are a royal pain to get sounding right.

 

[lilkman2202 10+ year member]

budget is 200ish and i more or less need it to keep up.

 

[the727kid 10+ year member]

$200 just for speakers? Find used horns... and some Dayton RSs.. will still probably be over budget but it will get loud with little power, and if you wanted to go a SQ route that isn't a bad start.