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I'm no where near the best at car audio. I know "lightweight" what I'm doing. but I have a problem that happened to my car on the way home the other day.

I usually don't play my radio over 40 (volume, goes to 62), and I've had the issue with my amp overheating that my high's and mids are on (basically because I have the amp stored in the Spare Tire area on a '94 Firebird, if you know what that's like), sometimes I put the amp out of it's area to breathe better, being I live in Ohio, and summers are pretty hot like anywhere else. Ok, well this particular day, I didn't let the amp breathe as I sometimes do, and just let it rest up against the amp on my subs (which is also in the compartment for the spare tire). I know for CERTAIN, no wires we're touching, none whatsoever, just the front of the High's Amp, and the Back of the Subs amp. not laying down together, but both at a standing angle, one laying on the other.

The high's amp went out, bass still played, and I usually get this when the high's amp overheats. I cut off the CD player, wait 5 seconds, turn it back on, everything back to normal. well this day, it cut off, (I'm guessing because I had the volume to 50, which I never did before) more times than usual. So I get home and park, and notice my hood is smoking (it was a rainy day, so it didn't really seem like nothing from that view), but when I lifted the hood, the alternator was burning internally, smoking real REAL bad, and I knew from the jump, I had burned the alternator coils up. but HOW!?, when this situation has happened before, same setup with the amps laying against each, high's amp overheating, me cutting the player off and back on to normal working, everything, and not once has the alternator fried itself.

One guy told me it's because of the metal to metal with the amps. I totally disregarded that suggestion as I can't see that happening without SOME wire touching (ground or +12). My first thought, was first off, poor alternator (firebird's recomm. amps on alternators, 105 -which mines was-), and too much current flowing through, burned the alternator up. Maybe I'm wrong?? But I definitely need some other opinions, as I'm going to get a 110-115 amperage alternator. But maybe I don't need bigger amps, maybe it was the way things we're wired?? hell, I just need the opinions before I do the same mistake again, thinking it's just a lousy alternator (which mine did come from a junkyard -I KNOW, SHOOT ME-)...

I have 2 12's, 600RMS each, ran in series (8 ohms), amp sees a 4 ohm load, 250x2 at 4 ohms, 1000 Watt amp. 4 Mids, 150RMS each, ran in series/parallel, with the amp it's on seeing a 8 ohm load. 800 Watt amp. Crossover, 4-In-1 Distributor, All grounds all good, I think either a 70 or 80 fuse block for the battery connection. I mean I don't know if any other info is required, but that's how my setup is, how could I have fried a alternator?? besides the alternator being poor itself..?

A capacitor??

help me out here tho. any is appreciated, sorry about the long paragraphs..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
You sound like one of my friends. He wants to do the absolute bare minimum required on every single thing in life he does, puts no effort into anything.

Why not do it right, save yourself the grief ... and money in the long run?

Who in the world rides their amp on the ragged edge of over-heating like this??

Who in the world lets their amp(s) ride loose in their car, ready to ding up against stuff, or wires come loose, or whatever.

Just nuts, man.

 
You sound like one of my friends. He wants to do the absolute bare minimum required on every single thing in life he does, puts no effort into anything.
Why not do it right, save yourself the grief ... and money in the long run?

Who in the world rides their amp on the ragged edge of over-heating like this??

Who in the world lets their amp(s) ride loose in their car, ready to ding up against stuff, or wires come loose, or whatever.

Just nuts, man.
Be careful, the troll patrol is on the case.

 
I'm no where near the best at car audio. I know "lightweight" what I'm doing. but I have a problem that happened to my car on the way home the other day.I usually don't play my radio over 40 (volume, goes to 62), and I've had the issue with my amp overheating that my high's and mids are on (basically because I have the amp stored in the Spare Tire area on a '94 Firebird, if you know what that's like), sometimes I put the amp out of it's area to breathe better, being I live in Ohio, and summers are pretty hot like anywhere else. Ok, well this particular day, I didn't let the amp breathe as I sometimes do, and just let it rest up against the amp on my subs (which is also in the compartment for the spare tire). I know for CERTAIN, no wires we're touching, none whatsoever, just the front of the High's Amp, and the Back of the Subs amp. not laying down together, but both at a standing angle, one laying on the other.

The high's amp went out, bass still played, and I usually get this when the high's amp overheats. I cut off the CD player, wait 5 seconds, turn it back on, everything back to normal. well this day, it cut off, (I'm guessing because I had the volume to 50, which I never did before) more times than usual. So I get home and park, and notice my hood is smoking (it was a rainy day, so it didn't really seem like nothing from that view), but when I lifted the hood, the alternator was burning internally, smoking real REAL bad, and I knew from the jump, I had burned the alternator coils up. but HOW!?, when this situation has happened before, same setup with the amps laying against each, high's amp overheating, me cutting the player off and back on to normal working, everything, and not once has the alternator fried itself.
I wanna see the chaos...

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heres a pic for u
bolted down amp, batt, speaker, fuse and cable

http://www.waynesilcock.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/P5.JPG

supprisingly my amp doesnt even get warm but my first sub (1.5KW) cought fire
really?? LOL. thank god I didn't click it i'm on a govt. computer haha.

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next time I know fa sure to bolt everything down. only reason I didn't this time, was because my previous car was broken into, and the bolted down amps, subs and everything else was snatched. I didn't want to bolt it down this time for quicker access to remove at night, so I can sleep peacefully.

I don't know what other reason it could've overheated, besides it being pretty warm in the compartment it's in, with little air to breathe in a 2 dr. hatchback. I know I made a mistake in the field. even with the previous times it went into protect, and I made it come back on with by turning the player off and on, I guess the imminent was bound to happen soon or later?... I have no clue.

No pics, why the **** would I take pictures of the alternator burned?..lol.. it didn't affect the sounds just the alternator. and remarkbly, the car started right up after all the smoke cleared.

I see it's no real useful help on here. but good lookin tho

 
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