legal question.

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

look at the vid I posted and the site... good info

Yes, you can say no to a police search, but if they have a canine unit available and close enough to get to the scene in a timely manner, they will hold you and let the dog sniff around the vehicle. If the dog indicates anything is there, that right there unfortunately gives them probable cause. I think it's bs, but hey, it's the law which is retarded. Most cops after being signaled by a dog would go ahead and search. Sporadically though, you will find an honest cop who will still go to the lengths of calling the on-call judge to confirm that probable cause exists and securing a telephonic warrant.

It's amazing how many people say the cops can search their vehicle when asked....then having pounds and pounds of drugs pulled out of their ride and complaining they were coerced into letting the cops search. *Shrugs*

Also remember that if a cop can't prove probable cause within a timely manner (up to an hour, yes I know that's still a while), then they are forced to let you go. Same thing goes with waiting for a canine unit to show up.

 

[Famous_78]

What the whole situation amounts too is that your "suspicous" a cop can do anything (depending state by state) to a person they thing is suspicous in anyway or form. What you could of done after they harrased you is said "im saying nothing till my lawyer gets here" One thing you gotta remember is that cops can do anything they want. Even if they didnt have a right to do that how are you gonna prove that they actually did it? If you go to court with your word against a cops word you might aswell turn around and walk out because you wont win. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif next time get a lawyer and do not say a word to them unless he or she says so.

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

then every detail about your vehicle is engraved in their mind, and when they see you again, they wait for you to do anything, no matter how minute, to phuck with you again. and again, and again. ive never been in the situation, and most cops around here are cool (atleast the ones ive run into), but no one around here has a truck like mine, and everyone knows me.
and its what i would do if i was one of the cops and a kid i harassed tried to phuck me back. id arrest ya, making sure ya didnt see me (or having my partner vouch i was with them at that point in time) make sure it wasnt on film, rough ya up alittle bit, drive ya 100 miles away in the middle of the woods somewhere and leave ya. aint makin my *** ride a bike around town or be captains ***** for a week and gettin away with it. but thats just me.

Then they're targeting you. They can't do anything to you unless you're doing something wrong. If a cop harrassed you for being an honest citizen and not lying on a complaint, the cop is screwed. Would be fired from the dept and probably not hired anywhere else unless someplace was desperate.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

Dont get me wrong, I work with cops day in and day out, but all of the people talking about how 80%/75% or whatere of cops are assholes are wrong...
many cops are assholes, but its about 50/50.. its just that the ones that piss you off are much easier to remember, you dont remember the ones that gove you directions, or get the keys out of the car, etc....

the might have violated your rights, but in all honesty, is this exactly how it happened?

If you or your vehicle matched the desription given of some kids vandalizing houses, than the *might be able to search you and your car (i dont know waht the state/city statutes of your area are).. around here, of someone said that they just had their house burlarized, and said it was you, the police can search you (clothes on) on site for any valuables, etc, if the person is willing to file a complaint than the police can attempt to determine if you were involved

i work at the airport, cops are cool as hell.

cops pulled me over for 57 in a 40, let me go because i had no priors. yeah he was a dick, but he had every right in the world to be.

anyways, back to your point. last night i was a thte mudruns around here. someone throws a beer bottle over my truck on the track. cops come and investivate. they didnt question me because i had no alcohol with/around me, and it was just me and my gf at the time. but they searched the drunken rednecks next to me. made they get out of their trucks, questioned them a good while, looked through their shit, the works. probably a 10 minute deal. being dicks the whole time. after they realized they were the ones who did it: APOLOGIZED, SAID HAVE A GOOD NIGHT and left them alone. sometimes being a dick is their job.

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

What the whole situation amounts too is that your "suspicous" a cop can do anything (depending state by state) to a person they thing is suspicous in anyway or form. What you could of done after they harrased you is said "im saying nothing till my lawyer gets here" One thing you gotta remember is that cops can do anything they want. Even if they didnt have a right to do that how are you gonna prove that they actually did it? If you go to court with your word against a cops word you might aswell turn around and walk out because you wont win. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif next time get a lawyer and do not say a word to them unless he or she says so.

You can actually do a lot. Most squad cars have cameras on the dash. It can be used against cops in many situations. Cops CANT do anything. I don't know what the hell you're smoking. Even if your word isn't good enough in court, a complaint forces a polygraph test for that officer. The thing about polygraphs aka lie detectors; they're inadmissable in court, ie; they hold no weight there. BUT....if a cop is found lying with a department polygraph, they can and probably will be fired in a heartbeat. Lying as a police officer is THE worst thing you can do. Not only is the cop liable, but the department AND the city/county can be held liable for hiring an officer of that nature.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

Then they're targeting you. They can't do anything to you unless you're doing something wrong. If a cop harrassed you for being an honest citizen and not lying on a complaint, the cop is screwed. Would be fired from the dept and probably not hired anywhere else unless someplace was desperate.

...duh. im saying they will watch for you for the slighest chance to further harass you. like they all know my truck, if i were to run a yellow light, or roll through a stop sign, things when they would normally be like eh no big, theyd be like no no thats the kid that phucked me. ima get him back.

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

...duh. im saying they will watch for you for the slighest chance to further harass you. like they all know my truck, if i were to run a yellow light, or roll through a stop sign, things when they would normally be like eh no big, theyd be like no no thats the kid that phucked me. ima get him back.

Eh, that sucks. Good thing for me that I'll be a cop here within the next year. Target me, I'll target you back. Either way, only a cop who is insecure and knows he did wrong would justify "getting back" with a person who honestly did nothing wrong to begin with.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

Eh, that sucks. Good thing for me that I'll be a cop here within the next year. Target me, I'll target you back. Either way, only a cop who is insecure and knows he did wrong would justify "getting back" with a person who honestly did nothing wrong to begin with.

bold = what i was saying

underline = you contradicting yourself or admitting your insecure?

not mocking you or anything but what side are you supporting?

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

bold = what i was saying
underline = you contradicting yourself or admitting your insecure?

not mocking you or anything but what side are you supporting?

lol, If a cop has the balls to harass another cop when they did nothing wrong, they deserve to have it done back to them. It's called karma.

My original comment that you're twisting around was directed @ cop/civilian scenerios. I'm not saying that turning around and "targeting" that cop is the right thing to do, but hey, who else can give the cop the same in return besides another cop? I don't think a civilian can pull over a cop for changing lanes without signaling and give them a $150 fine. I doubt a cop would pull over another cop and give them a ticket though unless it was for that reason, or they were doing something extremely dangerous. Usually cops are let off for the tickets.

The side I'm supporting is that if someone is doing nothing wrong, let them be. I believe in people's right and think one of the worst things you can do is violate someone's right aside from ****, murder, etc. The reason I'm becoming a cop is because when I was younger, I had my rights violated numerous times by power hungry pigs. Made me think that if I got a job as a cop, that'd be one less spot for a power abusing officer to have and one more honest cop on the streets.

It's sad seeing what officers get away with over and over again. I don't care if I'm the officer. If I do something wrong, I should be punished, as with any other person doing their job.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

lol, If a cop has the balls to harass another cop when they did nothing wrong, they deserve to have it done back to them. It's called karma.
My original comment that you're twisting around was directed @ cop/civilian scenerios. I'm not saying that turning around and "targeting" that cop is the right thing to do, but hey, who else can give the cop the same in return besides another cop? I don't think a civilian can pull over a cop for changing lanes without signaling and give them a $150 fine. I doubt a cop would pull over another cop and give them a ticket though unless it was for that reason, or they were doing something extremely dangerous. Usually cops are let off for the tickets.

The side I'm supporting is that if someone is doing nothing wrong, let them be. I believe in people's right and think one of the worst things you can do is violate someone's right aside from ****, murder, etc. The reason I'm becoming a cop is because when I was younger, I had my rights violated numerous times by power hungry pigs. Made me think that if I got a job as a cop, that'd be one less spot for a power abusing officer to have and one more honest cop on the streets.

It's sad seeing what officers get away with over and over again. I don't care if I'm the officer. If I do something wrong, I should be punished, as with any other person doing their job.

im gunna join the citizens patrol and pull all the real cops over.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

im gunna join the citizens patrol and pull all the real cops over.

I wish. And then i would yell GUN, and shoot them 47 times all in the face. And claim they werent aimed shots and i was just shooting in self defense.

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

im gunna join the citizens patrol and pull all the real cops over.

Too bad a cop's word is still "better" than a citizen's.

And Devillain...You'd then serve a lot of time for manslaughter if they couldn't prove intent. If they could, you'd end up with murder....sorry. Non aimed shots = recklessness which is a way to be charged with a crime.

Intent, Knowledge, Recklessness & Criminal negligence...

If one of those can be proven, you will be charged with the crime more likely than not.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

I wish. And then i would yell GUN, and shoot them 47 times all in the face. And claim they werent aimed shots and i was just shooting in self defense.

id arrest on grounds of douchebaggery

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

Too bad a cop's word is still "better" than a citizen's.

i was joking.

 

[MassOccur 10+ year member]

joke.

I know. I was just saying that it is a pity that a majority of cops are believed more so than a citizen. I've seen a lot of cops blatantly do stupid things knowing that they'd get away with it.