Kicker, Alpine, Focal or Ground zero speaker for sound quality?

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

i have the below amp
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its powering 4 pioneer speaker model 1675v2 which runs within 35 Hz to 20 kHz. ive set HPF on the amp. so, where should i set the frequency knob?

Didn't we already answer this.

80-100 is normal if 80hz makes them sound bad start going up

There is a reason that amp has 80 and 125hz marked it's common crossover points

Every speaker plays different in different environments. This is why install is so much more important than the cost of the speaker.

 

[mat3833 10+ year member]

Already have a dual sub in the trunk.
Its a mazda 3 sedan.
already have 4 coaxial speakers in the 4 doors.
have 2 tweeters in the dash board and 2 behind the back seat.
all speakers are and will be powered by a 4-channel pioneer amp of 100 watt RMS each.


"""a $200 set of comps can sound just as good as a $2000 set of comps if the install is proper""". i dont think so as many expensive speaker means higher end and higher quality. dont think a 200$ infinity/focal/alpine/hertz speaker will sound as great as their upper lines which cost 2000$ +. or even a 200$ kenwood will sound as great as a 2000$ JBL

I'm literally running a $2000+ set of Hertz 3-way comps on a $1200+ DSP amp, I'm not talking out my ***...

Your HPF setting will depend greatly on what size speaker you are running, how much power they are getting, and the install.

I have my 6.5" MIDBASS drivers HP at 60hz and LP at 350hz. My 3" MIDRANGE drivers are HP at 380hz and LP at 4000hz, and my tweeters are HP at 4200hz.

If you don't have deadened and sealed doors, setting your HP below about 100 is mostly useless and can lead to damage. If you are running 6x9 speakers they generally tolerate a HP of 80hz with no issues.

The pioneer speakers you listed will not do well playing below 100hz on anything more than 20w or so.

You are also wiring 8 speakers to a 4ch amp, so unless you are running a the left doors on ch1, right doors on ch2, left tweeters on ch3, and right tweeters on ch4 you are going to have problems.

I'm trying to help you, either accept the advice and learn why or go blow money and don't care about learning. Your choice

Matt

 

[ianik777]

I'm literally running a $2000+ set of Hertz 3-way comps on a $1200+ DSP amp, I'm not talking out my ***...

Your HPF setting will depend greatly on what size speaker you are running, how much power they are getting, and the install.

I have my 6.5" MIDBASS drivers HP at 60hz and LP at 350hz. My 3" MIDRANGE drivers are HP at 380hz and LP at 4000hz, and my tweeters are HP at 4200hz.

If you don't have deadened and sealed doors, setting your HP below about 100 is mostly useless and can lead to damage. If you are running 6x9 speakers they generally tolerate a HP of 80hz with no issues.

The pioneer speakers you listed will not do well playing below 100hz on anything more than 20w or so.

You are also wiring 8 speakers to a 4ch amp, so unless you are running a the left doors on ch1, right doors on ch2, left tweeters on ch3, and right tweeters on ch4 you are going to have problems.

I'm trying to help you, either accept the advice and learn why or go blow money and don't care about learning. Your choice

Matt

am actually learning. thats why i've posted soooo many queries/questions.

 

[mat3833 10+ year member]

am actually learning. thats why i've posted soooo many queries/questions.

OK, so start asking questions about how to properly install a speaker into a door, how to make sure speakers are wired correctly, how to improve the sound of the speakers you already have. You have plenty of speakers in your car, you would probably be better off getting a second amp instead of different speakers.

What model are the coaxial speakers and tweeters you have now? What model is your amp? Do you have a headunit or are you using a converter and factory radio? What kind of subs are you running and what sub amp?

There are much simpler and more effective ways to improve the performance of your stereo that don't cost any money.

Matt

 

[technobass 10+ year member]

I'm literally running a $2000+ set of Hertz 3-way comps on a $1200+ DSP amp, I'm not talking out my ***...

Your HPF setting will depend greatly on what size speaker you are running, how much power they are getting, and the install.

I have my 6.5" MIDBASS drivers HP at 60hz and LP at 350hz. My 3" MIDRANGE drivers are HP at 380hz and LP at 4000hz, and my tweeters are HP at 4200hz.

If you don't have deadened and sealed doors, setting your HP below about 100 is mostly useless and can lead to damage. If you are running 6x9 speakers they generally tolerate a HP of 80hz with no issues.

The pioneer speakers you listed will not do well playing below 100hz on anything more than 20w or so.

You are also wiring 8 speakers to a 4ch amp, so unless you are running a the left doors on ch1, right doors on ch2, left tweeters on ch3, and right tweeters on ch4 you are going to have problems.

I'm trying to help you, either accept the advice and learn why or go blow money and don't care about learning. Your choice

Matt

I want to hear your car
What amp do you use?

 

[mat3833 10+ year member]

I want to hear your car
What amp do you use?

I'm running an audison APF8.9 bit. At the moment I only have the tweeters, midrange, and stage amp installed. Here soon I should have the new midbass(est arrival is the 23rd) and I can put the car back together, but the substage is a long way from being final.

Ur not too far from me. Once it's close to complete I'll gladly give you a demo.

Matt

 

[technobass 10+ year member]

My family in Orlando, when ever you done with ur car let me know.
I want to run Hertz MLK165.3 but change my mind cause i found a set of Illusion Audio C6 for a great price.

 

[KicktheSDbasshead]

well, there are 3 models in alpine. E, R, G and X . E around 55 USD. G around 115 USD. R around 200+ USD. the X are around 440+ USD.

Listen to Matt grab the type R and step up gradually you will be surprised what proper installation can do.

 

[deez283 10+ year member]

I'd take the Morel Maximo 6 over anything on your list.. 169.99 or so from Crutchfield.

 

[Loppls]

Please don't waste your money on thousand dollar drivers until you have a proper knowledge of installation and tuning. Get a set of the Alpine Type R componants and call it a day. Then spend the next year figuring out how to seal up a door, dampen all thd vibrations, tune using your EQ, etc.

Once you have done that, graduate to something more expensive. The investment in drivers isn't worth it without the experience and know-how to properly install the speaker.

For reference I run the Hertz Mille legend 3-way setup. If I didn't know how to properly install things(still not perfect actually, I'm learning every time I mess with the system) I would be Hella disappointed with the money I spent.

Matt
Solid advice and the kind of thing people need to hear before dropping serious money on high end drivers. The door sealing and deadening work genuinely makes more difference to the end result than the driver itself in most installs, and learning that on a set of Alpine Type R components rather than Hertz Mille Legends is exactly the right way to develop that knowledge. Tropica Casino https://tropical-casino.com/ without proper installation experience even the most expensive drivers will disappoint and that regret hits a lot harder when you have spent four figures on components that are underperforming because the door seal is leaking bass everywhere.


The EQ tuning point is worth emphasising too since even mid range drivers properly tuned will outperform premium components thrown in without attention to time alignment or crossover settings. Experience compounds in car audio in a way money alone cannot replicate.

Solid advice and the kind of thing people need to hear before dropping serious money on high end drivers. The door sealing and deadening work genuinely makes more difference to the end result than the driver itself in most installs and learning that on Alpine Type R components rather than Hertz Mille Legends is exactly the right way to develop that knowledge without the painful regret of a botched expensive install. The EQ tuning point is worth emphasising too since even mid range drivers properly tuned and installed will outperform premium components thrown in without any attention to time alignment or crossover settings. Experience compounds in car audio in a way that money alone simply cannot replicate. The fact that you are still learning and refining with a Hertz Mille three way setup says everything about how deep this rabbit hole actually goes.