Just to clear things up a bit

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Fiction has little to nothing to do with being 'entirely serious' about the subject.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Mugen, I hope you don't take this as an attack on your position in any way. I have grown up being of the mindset that to live life in the way you describe would require a separation from all things that may entice one down the wrong path. That is a discipline that I'd venture very few can claim success, myself included.
You say these friends are born again yet they continue to engage in activities which keep them from fulfillment? It's easy to talk the talk, are you sure they ever truly walked the walk? It's easy to get caught up in doing what the rest of the crowd is doing, that includes activities at church. I've seen way too many young people treat church as more of a social event than a place of reverence and discipline. If one is truly born again, then you don't go to church to find God, you take Him with you in your heart.

 

Do you associate with them on any terms outside of trying to be supportive to find their way back? If you're as convicted as you're coming across, that should be your only functional association should it not?

(to loud 3)

These men gave an account of their lives. There was nothing ficticious about it.

(Vermithrax)

These guys (one in particular) was big time into drugs and all that.

Then one day someone invited him to church, he got born again (repented of his sins and asked Jesus to be his Lord) and really went through a dramatic change. He was just like any of these guys on here who say all sorts of vile things about God and religion.

After that sunday you could find him and the other friends of mine that were also converted in the front row of church full of joy and dancing and lifting their hands for the song service. They got up on stage on several occasions and gave their testimony of how their lives were transformed.

At the time, I wasn't born again, and I really didn't understand how this could be real. It seemed silly.

But after experiencing it myself I can tell you that it was genuine.

I have also veered very far from the Christian lifestlyle and I think it would have been quite hypocritical to try and minister to him the way I was living.

Being a Christian is very hard in todays society, and it's easy to lose focus. But the only time I rtruly feel at peace is when I draw near to God.

I know because I've tried every other thing under the son to get that feeling back and it can't be done.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Sorry, but I think that someone who doesn't even know when their holy book was written lacks a certain amount of credibility on this topic.

I really don't see how that makes much sense.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

I really don't see how that makes much sense.

Since you are clearly lacking all the facts with respect to the history of Christianity, it hardly seems you are fit to make an objective evaluation of its factual basis.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

in a thousand years, people will be worshiping Huckleberry Fin because I am stating right now that it actually happened.

i believe that the bible was a story that may have begun as a truth, but evolved into fiction as the original story was passed down. like a series of bedtime stories.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

How do you know it's true?

I have faith that its true

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

How do you know it's true?

this has always been my question, and no one has ever answered the question with direct provable fact.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

At least Twain is a good writer.

 

[Pootie 10+ year member]

(to loud 3)These men gave an account of their lives. There was nothing ficticious about it.

How do you know it's true?

x2.

The fact is you don't, you think they did. So quit claiming these are "facts" that you cannot prove. All they are are assumtions and you know what they say about that.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

Since you are clearly lacking all the facts with respect to the history of Christianity, it hardly seems you are fit to make an objective evaluation of its factual basis.

So I'm lacking ALL the facts with respect to Christianity because I don't know the exact year the apostles wrote the books?

Ok.

 

[mugen08 10+ year member]

How do you know it's true?

Why would the men who wrote it lie about what happened, when lying would go directly against what they devoted their life to?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Why would the men who wrote it lie about what happened, when lying would go directly against what they devoted their life to?

why do some priests fuk little boys

kind of goes against the grain eh?

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

Why would the men who wrote it lie about what happened, when lying would go directly against what they devoted their life to?

it is not them who lied...it is the time before it was written that lied. like telling someone a fact and having them pass it around the world. when it gets back to you, it will be completely different.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

You have a slight tendency to ignore questions.

Please list the reasons why cocaine is wrong, aside from the health implications.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

You have a slight tendency to ignore questions.
Please list the reasons why cocaine is wrong, aside from the health implications.

it is the christian thing to do....see post 174, last sentence.

 

[loudwhat? 10+ year member]

WOW this is a pissin match

isn't there a Christan forum you can go to "spread the word" your wasting bandwidth that we can use on things like "pics of girls you laid threads" i mean come on take your preaching *** off here if you can type you have heard the "Jesus died for your sins" bed time stories we don't need to talk about them and compare different versions of the "truth" yes im sure ill go to hell but ill be dead what do i care!!

almost all are good points in everyone's post but its all in what you believe no point in arguing that just pushes people away so do as god said and "turn the other cheek "