Enellz
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The Triple O.G.
yeah, they use to film that joint around the corner from my great grandma's house.
BoomBoomBoy
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If those comment were made by a caucasian and would have been caught, the shit would have hit the fan. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif
Case and point, the whole thing is beeing portrayed as a Fox News conspiracy in a lot of circles. Most of the initial reports on the news channels did not even say what Jesse was apologizing for, just "crude comments".
Meanwhile, remember when bush called some A-hole an A-hole offmike? They went appaplectic for weeks. It was the end of civil discourse.
TurdFergueson2
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I bet if some dude at Walmart call my mother that, Jesse would be right there. He pics his spots is all I'm saying. You can't change what's in people's hearts. I just feel different about shit. If the KKK wanted to do a march on Washington why shouldn't they? Fegs too. I feel like they should get married. I could care less what goes on in theeir household. I care about me and mine. That is all. US has proved many many times that it aint gonna work. You can blame that on slavery etc, but by now we have all heard the speeches, seen the shit on tv during Black History month (Which is a joke too........coldest and shortest month of the year) but yet I'm supposed to try and uplift this brotha who ain't shit and don't want to be shit? It could change in a month if they wanted it to. I see how the shit is in my neighborhood now. ONce a Cop's grandson overdosed on some shit they sold him around my way. Cops knew where he got it from, who sold it to him etc. But yet the shit goes on all day every day. We got cameras too and people still be selling right under them. Nobody cares until it's time to care. Just like Jesse.
Still just a word. You listen to Nas? You think he's what's wrong with America? You really think Imus said what he said because he heard it in a rap song? You think he heard enough to form an opinion? Has he listened to Public Enemy, X-Clan, or BDP? Or do you think he was just trying to find any way to get out of that shit? Imus: "Well they say it in their music, I thought it was ok....."
As far as the N word, do as we do but not as we say. Nas wanted to title his album that to desensitize the word. Instead the so called black leaders want to preserve it. Thing is it's all in how you use it. Like calling somebody a *** or saying something is gay. Doesn't always mean it's homosexual, but you get it.
Banana Balls
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I for one appreciate the honesty. I'd like to chop his wife's nuts off.
He's a self proclaimed reverend. He doesn't have to follow any rules. Just ask his illegitimate bastard daughter
That's because white people are racist.
adio
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huge problem
yes
yes. nobody will respect you or your race if u disrespect it yourself ( this case applies to minorities, since minorities, deep down and surface-wise in most cases, respect white people)
jco1385
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overall... Jesse Jackson = black = not racist
dam kids, i thought you knew.
dam kids, i thought you knew.
adio
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pffffft!! everybody thinks that until their called one.
nas is not whats wrong with america. nas is a respresentation of whats wrong with young black america. anybody who names their album a racial slur is whats wrong, especially when their have been slaves, civil rights marchers and workers (both black, white, asian, hispanic and others), million man and million women marches and jena 6 protesters against the very thing he's trying to do. he's trying to desensitize the word!?!? fuk him, cause thats a weak and tired excuse.
i disagree, but i understand
what, if u call somebody or something 'gay', that doesn't always mean its homosexual?? well what does it mean? yeah, it means its dumb or stupid and what not, but doesn't that mean ur associating homosexuality with stupity or dumbness?
and this is the qoute your talkin about:
"We're taking power [away] from the word," he added. "No disrespect to none of them who were part of the civil-rights movement, but some of my n---as in the streets don't know who [civil-rights activist] Medgar Evers was. I love Medgar Evers, but some of the n---as in the streets don't know Medgar Evers, they know who Nas is. And to my older people who don't now who Nas is and who don't know what a street disciple is, stay outta this mutha----in' conversation. We'll talk to you when we're ready. Right now, we're on a whole new movement. We're taking power [away] from that word."
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1572287/20071018/nas.jhtml
(for the bolded part) really!?!? you'll talk to ur grandparents about 'n!gger' when ur fukin ready!?!? they know who nas is, but not medgar evers........ whats wrong with that picture. thats like saying, i know who Bun B is, but the fuq is booker t. washington?? and nas is refering to people in their 20's and 30's, not elementary and middle school kids.
this is what al had to say
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=182827
of course LA reid is gonna stand behind him.........$$$$$$$$$$$$$
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=182826
of course people are gonna say 'fuk al sharpton'....... i know. i have yet to hear of an asian rapper coming out with an album called 'chinky winky ' or 'gook: the album' . there plenty of white rappers that are jewish, but you'll never hear one of them with an album titled 'kike on the mic'. like i said on FEB 28TH...... death destruction and disrespect.
edit: here's sommore i found
"I think Jesse Jackson, he's the biggest player hater," Nas fumed during a conference call. "His time is up. All you old n---as, time is up. We heard your voice, we saw your marching, we heard your sermons. We don't wanna hear that sh-- no more. It's a new day. It's a new voice. I'm here now. We don't need Jesse; I'm here. I got this. We got Barack, we got David Banners and Young Jeezys. We're the voice now. It's no more Jesse. Sorry. Goodbye. You ain't helping nobody in the 'hood. That's the bottom line. Goodbye, Jesse. Bye!"
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1590708/20080710/nas.jhtml
seriuosly, does anybody black person with a decent head on their shoulders want a rapper to be in charge of civil rights issues and causes as well as the well-being of african americans in america!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!??!!?
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TurdFergueson2
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LA Reid wanted to stand behind him because he does bring money to the label. But Sony threatened to cut funding, thus the name change. It wasn't Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, but like I said, they used that as a way to get face time.
If Eminem came out and called his album something derogatory to Whites, it would gain attention, but I bet you he wouldn't have to change the name of it.
I think you mistook the part about what he was saying about old people not knowing who he is. You know O'Riely was telling people to protest the free concert he was doing at VA Tech because he has a gun charge from a while back? I think he was talking about old people like that. My thing is I got no problem with the name of the album, but I do got a problem with clown *** shit like Soulja BOy or any of this other stupid shit they put on the air. I seriously got a bigger problem with that. I mean his last album was called Hip Hop is dead, but nobody was saying much about that.
But I realize that this is about Obama/Jesse. I just can't figure that one out really.
Edit: After reading your edit, it looks like something Malcolm may have said. When you Fuk with a man's money, you get reactions like that. How would you feel if some dude in power was using his power to shut your shit down? You'd react too. Find what Jesse was saying about Nas to make him say that.
And really the last thing he done that I can remember is handling that hostage situation.
Should have been him in 68. Yeah I said it.
adio
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sure would and so would u. thats why i made the post bout if one of these people who are in yor life called u a racial slur and u depend on them for health, transportation, housing, etc, u wouldn't say its just a word then. you'd react
i'll find something on jesse
edit: Reverend Jesse Jackson and The NAACP(The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) expressed their disapproval with the rapper’s title of choice for his next opus.
“The title using the 'N' word is morally offensive and socially distasteful,” Jackson said via a statement. “Nas has the right to degrade and denigrate in t he name of free speech, but there is no honor in it. Radio and television stations have no obligation to play it and self-respecting people have no obligation to buy it.”
“ I wish he would use his talents to lift up and inspire, not degrade, making mockery of racism,” he added.
“We will not support and we will not continually be assailed by other individuals who want to use that type of term in our presence,”stressed national NAACP spokesman Richard McIntire. “This has gone on long enough”.
http://www.sixshot.com/news/8181/
TurdFergueson2
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See to me he blew his load too early. If anything was said 3 days after next Tuesday I can understand it. It was said months before the album dropped.
adio
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well they're going after the name of the album, not the album itself...... they can't; they don't know whats on it.
edited for accuracy LOL. im jokin. the dudes a doucherocket on many many levels. but to the comment asking who could stir more shit than jackson........sharpton. period. talk about a true racist mother ****er.
adio
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found em!!!!jesse has a alotta fukin balls even thinking that. i don't care that he whispered it to another african american during a commercial break.......... when a black man (or woman)with some power and a voice that people hear and listen expresses that black people need to take personal responsibility for their lives and the lives of the people that are very close to them, people jump up and diss them and calll them 'sellouts', 'uncle toms' 'aunt jemimas', etc. the same thing happened to bill cosby (and maybe dr. poussaint) and jason whitlock. if jesse and other blacks wanna focus on the bigger problems affecting society as a whole and black people in particualr, we been fukin doin that!!!! how many gat**** years do we have to rehash the same thing over and over!?
how many times do u have to have chest pain and people are telling u that you need to calm down and take nitroglycerin tabs? if u have chest pain 4 days a week and people are tellin you that, u are only fixin a minority of the problem........... u need to take personal responsibilty and change your diet and take your *** to the doctor!!!!!!!!!!! black people can keep talkin about racism, poverty, under-education, violence, etc. but until we talk and seriously, forreal IMPLEMENT personal responsibilty into our lives, we're gonna be in an eternal circle jerk.
slaves and former slaves talked about the same thing, but they had a duty of personal responsiblity to themselves, to their families, their communities and to their descendants........with no affirmative action, no protests and marches, no big, medium or small outlets to voice things. they just fukin did it.
talkin down to black people.....outta ur gatdaam mind. the rate of single mothers in black neighbors is sky-high. and barack gonna tell a church full of black people that fathers need to be there for their families to head off a world of potential problems and jesse gon say he's talkin down to black people!?!?
edit: where's my man roland martin at??
June 16, 2008 -- Updated 1610 GMT (0010 HKT)
Commentary: Black men must reclaim our children
By Roland S. Martin
CNN contributor
In this op-ed first published several months ago on CNN.com, contributor Roland Martin addresses some of the same themes Barack Obama raised in a Father's Day address on Sunday.
(CNN) -- As the mug shots of the alleged killers of NFL star Sean Taylor were shown on television, I kept wondering when we were going to see their parents step forward. I saw a couple of mothers, but their dads were missing in action.
Roland Martin credits two strong parents with raising him to do right by them.
Dads matter, and it's ridiculous for us to act as if all it takes is a loving mom.
Now, I don't know what it means not to have a father in your life. I'm not familiar with a mom being strung out on a crack binge. And when my parents were called to the school when there was a discipline problem, Mom and Dad didn't go off on the teacher or principal. In fact, I can still feel the pain of my elementary school principal's paddle being applied to my butt when I acted a fool. The principal could only pop me three times. Dad? He had no limit.
Bottom line: I can sit here today and celebrate them and enjoy a wonderful life because my parents were hell-bent on raising their children to do right by them, especially my dad.
We can spend all day talking about the ills afflicting urban America -- and there are plenty that are institutional -- but the decaying value of life in inner cities clearly can be traced to the exodus of fathers from the lives of so many young men. Excuses often are tossed about as to why black men leave their children (and their children's moms) to fend for themselves. But a lot of them are just sorry and refuse to accept the responsibility that comes with raising a child.
A lot of my colleagues will suggest it's too simplistic to assign such a high value to a dad being in the life of a child. But just take a visit to your local jail, juvenile hall or state prison. You likely will be confronted with a sea of black men -- strong, able-bodied, creative and restless -- who have spent or will spend years and years with a prison number identifying who they are.
According to the U.S. Justice Department, of all the black men in the U.S. between the ages of 25 and 29 in 2002, 10.4 percent were incarcerated. Hispanic and white men? Just 2.4 percent and 1.2 percent respectively. If a poll were done on how many grew up without fathers, I can guarantee you the numbers would be staggering.
The rampant poverty that exists has led many young blacks to a life of crime, choosing to sell drugs and involve themselves in gangs as opposed to focusing on education as a way out of the cellar of life.
But you see, when nearly 70 percent of black kids are born to unmarried parents, likely to a too-young mom, that puts tremendous pressure on grandmothers (and some grandfathers), sisters and brothers to take up the slack. But if the person who impregnated that woman were on the scene, not only helping to pay for the raising of the child but also serving as a strong influence, I just don't believe we would see such a chronic condition.
And the black men who have done their job are scared to death about what the tendency for black men to leave relationships means for their daughters.
The day before leaving for vacation, I got word that a good friend, Chicago attorney Reynaldo Glover, had died of pancreatic cancer.
He was 64.
In our last extensive conversation before he was diagnosed in July, Reynaldo pleaded with me to use my national media stage to be a voice to sound the alarm about what's happening to black men in America, because he wanted to know that his daughter would have a respectable man to marry one day. (I'm sure if she chose to marry someone who's not black, Reynaldo wouldn't mind, but he realized that as a nation, we mostly marry within our race.)
I promised Reynaldo that I would do all I can, because this has been an issue for me for many years. In fact, my mom gets angry because I'm always talking about my dad on television, radio and in my books. That's because when you see black men who have "made it," the accolades are plenty for their moms, and their dads are hardly mentioned. I just think it's critical to show daddy some love, too.
This is not an issue that black America can continue to sweep under the rug. I've heard countless folks talk about it, such as Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, who noted that his dad left his family when he was a toddler and didn't see much of him growing up. Even in the Republican CNN-YouTube debate, GOP candidate Mitt Romney said fathers are part of the answer to addressing crime in inner cities.
We shouldn't shame our young girls who get pregnant, but surely it shouldn't be seen as a blue-ribbon day. Teenage black girls and black boys should be focused on picking colleges, not the names of babies. When a young girl wants a baby christened, her pastor should be asking to meet with the father as well, even if the two don't get along. We also should be telling black women not to lie down with any fool. A moment of pleasure could lead you to a lifetime of raising that child. Alone.
A friend of mine suggested more black men need to mentor young black men. I agree. But that's a bandage. If we get black men to handle their business in the first place, no one else would have to stand in the gap.
Unless black America owns up to this problem -- and fast -- we are going to see another generation of young black men who are angry with their lot in life. And the result will be more discipline problems in school, which will lead to folks dropping out, and that is nothing but a one-way ticket to jail.
Black men, it's time to man up. Enough with the sperm donors. We need real men to stand up and accept their responsibility. The state of our boys is on us. And no one else.
Roland S. Martin is a nationally award-winning journalist and CNN contributor. Martin is studying to receive his master's degree in Christian communications at Louisiana Baptist University, and he is the author of "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith." You can read more of his columns at http://www.rolandsmartin.com.
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