JBL 1200.1 or MTX 6500D

[Matador 10+ year member]

sorry guys but i had so many questions. either way, it came down to this.

i can get a really, really good deal for a JBL1200.1, or i could go for a MTX thunder6500D, or Phoenix Gold QX900.1d (

i read that this amp blow subs pretty easy as it also plays distortion, true?

then, wat's a subsonic filter? JBL doesn't have one, how does it affect it?

it's true that the JBL gets more power for the buck, n way more power (+400watts). but can i rely on the JBL to power 2 10'' L5s, of course settin the gains ns tuff corectly.

wat do u guys think of the MTX 6500D? is it better than the JBL?

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[rco8786 10+ year member]

Originally posted by Matador sorry guys but i had so many questions. either way, it came down to this.

i can get a really, really good deal for a JBL1200.1, or i could go for a MTX thunder6500D, or Phoenix Gold QX900.1d (

i read that this amp blow subs pretty easy as it also plays distortion, true?

then, wat's a subsonic filter? JBL doesn't have one, how does it affect it?

 

it's true that the JBL gets more power for the buck, n way more power (+400watts). but can i rely on the JBL to power 2 10'' L5s, of course settin the gains ns tuff corectly.

 

wat do u guys think of the MTX 6500D? is it better than the JBL?

 

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No amp is going to play distortion unless it is sending clipped signals..which is the operator's fault. A subsonic filter makes sure the amp doesn't play extra low frequencies, which humans can't hear and can damage a subwoofer. This doesn't matter unless your porting your box. Yes you can rely on the jbl to power your subs..in fact the jbl is underrated abit. I don't have any experience with the 6500D and as you can see I am very biased to jbl...so you have my answer

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

Originally posted by Matador sorry guys but i had so many questions. either way, it came down to this.

i can get a really, really good deal for a JBL1200.1, or i could go for a MTX thunder6500D, or Phoenix Gold QX900.1d (

i read that this amp blow subs pretty easy as it also plays distortion, true?

the only reason that amp would blow subs is if it gives them to much power....it puts out aprox 13-1400 watts.....

then, wat's a subsonic filter? JBL doesn't have one, how does it affect it?

unless your building a ported box you shouldnt worry about the subsonic filter....it just blocks the lower freq that we cant hear (if im not mistaken) so that it doesnt interfere w/ your port???not 100% sure on that one tho

it's true that the JBL gets more power for the buck, n way more power (+400watts). but can i rely on the JBL to power 2 10'' L5s, of course settin the gains ns tuff corectly.

yep....shouldnt have any problem providing you dont play volume master

wat do u guys think of the MTX 6500D? is it better than the JBL?

well mtx is good...but im not all that famalier w/ that particular amp sorry

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[Matador 10+ year member]

one more thing, it says that the 1200.1 draws a lot of current/power from the battery. ihave stock alternator n battery, do i really need a cap? i read that it cuts off cuz it overheats or cuz not enough power, so a cap is necessary?

12.0V input n 14.4V input, they r regulated by the gauge of the power wire?

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

depends.....the 1200.1 will draw aprox 114 amps max @2ohms.....i belive its a bit more at 1ohm...so check out what your stock alt puts out.......a cap would help but its only a bandaide....get a larger alt if you have any problems....

 

[bean 10+ year member]

All of the numbers are great..... 1300-1400 watts max. Great. If can though, buy the Rockford TYPERF X5. I replace a guys 1200.1 with the X5 and it blew it out of the water. It's a much better amp for the price (retail) even though it says it only puts out 550 watts.

 

[Moocow16 10+ year member]

do you think that 2 E15KD2's could handle an MTX 81000D at full power? also, since it's rated at 14.4 i figure it would actually be less, so the subs wouldn't actually be seeing 1500W. i would wire the 2 voice coils in series, creating 2 4 ohms loads, then putting them in parallel, back down to 2 ohm right? correct me if i'm wrong please.

 

[Moocow16 10+ year member]

oh, and my oppinion, i'd go with the MTX, i really do believe that you get what you pay for. i have an old mtx amp and it sounds great.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Originally posted by Moocow16 do you think that 2 E15KD2's could handle an MTX 81000D at full power? also, since it's rated at 14.4 i figure it would actually be less, so the subs wouldn't actually be seeing 1500W. i would wire the 2 voice coils in series, creating 2 4 ohms loads, then putting them in parallel, back down to 2 ohm right? correct me if i'm wrong please.

ur correct if they are 2ohm coils. and i personally like the 81000d and think ur subs will be fine with it.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

the jbl is great amp for the money, and as many people have sed u are getting much more power. As long as u don't run the 1200.1 @1ohm u should be fine. I just got 1 and i'm running it @2ohms on my stock battery and alternator w/ no cap. and it works fine. I would recommend the JBL, but don't get me wrong MTX does still make some good amps

 

[bean 10+ year member]

Just noticed, some of the signatures are getting a bit obnoxios (spelling)... Holly crap. I mean mrray you have a freakin monster truck in your signature.

 

[Moocow16 10+ year member]

oh, you know what, i just remembered, the amp i have was bought directly from MTX and i still have the "Certified Performance Certificate". mines rated at 80Wx2W @ 4ohm, it actually puts out 115x2W @ 4ohm, and it's rated at 160x2W @ 2ohm, it actually puts out 197x2W @ 2ohm. so, for mine anyways, it was about 30% underrated at 4ohms and 19% underrated at 2ohms. and also, the distortion was rated at .05% @ 4ohm, and it was actually .011%, and at 2 ohm it was rated at .1%, and it was actually .042%. so yeah, that's for any of you out there that are thinking about buying an mtx amp, they're underrated and they sound great