It baffles me

I have personally seen 2 saz-2500's being ran at .25 ohms ea powering 4 sa-15s. There are reasons its so expensive... Because those amps produce tons of power if you are willing and have the right equip
I'm not trying to poke holes in your story, and I'm not even trying to say you're making it up, but that amp was NOT seeing a true .25 ohm load. In a perfect world, I theoretically ran my ONYX1500 at .5 ohms from several months.

I'm sure sundown amps and other similar brands are quality, just there comes a crossroad where price-point meets sensibility.

 
The products that go into his amps cost a pretty penny though man.. you have to realize that... Its not cheap knock off equip... Thats the real deal son

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The products that go into his amps cost a pretty penny though man.. you have to realize that... Its not cheap knock off equip... Thats the real deal son
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I like that hat.

But simply put, Audioque produces a 4k rms amp that can handle an 18v charging system, and more than likely can wire down pretty low; and for 800 and shipping

 
What you cant justify, someone else might. Take a look at home audio, the prices arent even comparable to car.. Speakers and amps going well over 100k. Sundown amps aren't cheap, but they make some quality equipment that can take abuse.. We all have a choice in the end.

 
I would take my saz-3500 for 850 over the aq-3500 any day of the week..
I probably would too, a SAZ3500 for 850 is a great deal, but the problem is everyone else buys it for almost 1200 dollars.

 
I like that hat.
But simply put, Audioque produces a 4k rms amp that can handle an 18v charging system, and more than likely can wire down pretty low; and for 800 and shipping
AQ makes some real solid amps, but i wouldnt trust them with low loads, and high voltage nearly as much as a SAZ

 
I understand supply and demand and market forces. I'm a fan of capitalism, but seriously, you can't possibly justify paying 800 dollars for 2500w

Why not?

The same principles I just stated apply.

For instance, the Manu has over head costs to run the company. The manu sells to a distributor (again w/ over head), Dist sells to retail outlets (more over head costs). Each time the price must be marked up to allow for both a reasonable flow in profit and still allow the product to remain reasonably priced to the consumer.

MAP pricing is a # set by the Manu to allow this trend to flow smoothly and to not gouge the price of the product.

The prices on lines you mentioned are outside of this MAP pricing regiment. Thus, they are artificially low. In many cases, unscrupulous Manu's and Dist's sell online FAR below dealer cost (killing the retail market place and people like me that make a living selling 12v to the public working day in and day out) just to make a quick buck or unload masses of inventory.

These Manu's and Dist's sell products at a FAR higher volume than a 12V retail store. So, they can 'afford' to make a smaller margin per unit sold. So, from that you see mass sales online. Bypassing the retail market place and hurting the economy as a whole.

For instance, if you go to a Chevy dealership and get a price of $30,000 for a new vehicle...and that is the 'going' retail rate. BUT, what if you could call up GM directly and get the same vehicle for $25,000???? In effect, you would have taken the dealership out of the picture and taken $ out of their pockets.

Yes, its a better price for you, but look at the larger picture.

Since the GM dealer ship didn't make $ on the sale of the vehicle, they are now in effect at a loss of profit. Now, expand that loss of profit exponentially to the point at which ALL GM customers can now buy direct from GM and the dealership is pretty much out of the picture. So, due to loss of profits, the dealership shuts down w/ them goes your local GM-certified garage. Now, what do you do when you have a warranty issue w/ your new vehicle? Ship it back to a GM Auto plant? You no longer have a local business to take care of problems on-site, what else can you do?

Local businesses suffer, local job force suffers.

 
Go find yourself a sales rep and talk to him lol dont go direct through sundown. Thats where you get screwed
I would go that far. Also, posting about that can get those reps in trouble for doing so if Jacob does not know about it.

You have a lot to learn in this industry don't you.

 
I would go that far. Also, posting about that can get those reps in trouble for doing so if Jacob does not know about it.

You have a lot to learn in this industry don't you.
Just some insight on saving money.

 

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Just some insight on saving money.
No rep was mentioned so who would be getting in trouble

 
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