It baffles me

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

How do companies like IA make 2k amps for 720.00, and stay in business? Even less reasonable is the SAZ2500 for 815.00.

I mean i understand that they're nice amps, but paying for 3 watts on the dollar is a little extreme, I don't care how nice the amp is. There are PLENTY of amps that provide similar performance, for MUCH less. I'm not talking budget amps either Massive Audio, Audioque, and a few other companies all make GOOD amps for half the MSRP of some of these other amps.

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[RangerDangerV2 5,000+ posts]

atomic 5000.1 D= 950 bucks rockin amp... same with aq 2200d

 

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

atomic 5000.1 D= 950 bucks rockin amp... same with aq 2200d

EXACTLY what I'm talking about AQ3500's do 4.3k at 1ohm at 14.4v for $800 dollars. Say what you want but AQ's are nice amps

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

some of it that has to do with components on the boards, the boards themselves, and some of it has to do with name recognition... but not much

 

[Phoenix Risen 10+ year member]

not every amp in that power range will run on 18v+ systems or drop down to .25 ohm loads with out much of an issue either.

 

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

not every amp in that power range will run on 18v+ systems or drop down to .25 ohm loads with out much of an issue either.

I can see that, but 300-400 more dollars for all that?

 

[LazyRider 10+ year member]

some of it that has to do with components on the boards, the boards themselves, and some of it has to do with name recognition... but not much

what movie is the gif in your sig from?

 

[Canaan 10+ year member]

Ok...let me ask you this.

Have you ever worked in a retail sales outlet...of any kind?

If not, then you likely don't understand dealer cost vs MSRP/MAP from a basic business view.

To simplify things. If it 'costs' you $X per hour to get out there and do your job, just to break even...would you:

A) charge your customers that same $X to do the job?

Or

B) mark up the cost of your time to a point at which it is both reasonably profitable for you and reasonably priced to the customer?

Think about your job and the $ you make for the time you spend working. Now think about how mainstream 12v stuff is whored out online for crazy discounts vs MAP pricing.

Now, compare those #'s to your own hourly pay.

WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO WORK AT YOUR JOB IF YOUR EMPLOYER SUDDENLY DROPPED THE PRICE OF YOUR LABOR BY THE SAME AMOUNT?

For instance. Say you are making $15/hr...then your employer says, 'hey, John-Doe we are going to drop you to $10/hr but you still have to do everything you did in the past and stay on quota". Would you be pissed? Would you stay w/ this job?

Just a little food for thought.

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

what movie is the gif in your sig from?

after sex

 

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

Ok...let me ask you this.
Have you ever worked in a retail sales outlet...of any kind?

If not, then you will likely don't understand dealer cost vs MSRP/MAP.

To simplify things. If it 'costs' you $X per hour to get out there and do your job, just to break even...would you:

A) charge your customers that same $X to do the job?

Or

B) mark up the cost of your time to a point at which it is both reasonably profitable for you and reasonably priced to the customer?

Think about your job and the $ you make for the time you spend working. Now think about how mainstream 12v stuff is whored out online for crazy discounts vs MAP pricing.

Now, compare those #'s to your own hourly pay.

WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO WORK AT YOUR JOB IF YOUR EMPLOYER SUDDENLY DROPPED THE PRICE OF YOUR LABOR BY THE SAME AMOUNT?

For instance. Say you are making $15/hr...then your employer says, 'hey, John-Doe we are going to drop you to $10/hr but you still have to do everything you did in the past and stay on quota". Would you be pissed? Would you stay w/ this job?

Just a little food for thought.

I understand supply and demand and market forces. I'm a fan of capitalism, but seriously, you can't possibly justify paying 800 dollars for 2500w

 

[Gbob2003 10+ year member]

I can get sundowns for le cheapz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif workin on funds for an saz-3500 bn for 850. But yes you do have a point. Shtt aint le cheapz very often lool

 

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I understand supply and demand and market forces. I'm a fan of capitalism, but seriously, you can't possibly justify paying 800 dollars for 2500w

I can get it for 600 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif lol

 

[Gbob2003 10+ year member]

I have personally seen 2 saz-2500's being ran at .25 ohms ea powering 4 sa-15s. There are reasons its so expensive... Because those amps produce tons of power if you are willing and have the right equip

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

I understand supply and demand and market forces. I'm a fan of capitalism, but seriously, you can't possibly justify paying 800 dollars for 2500w

better than paying RF 1300 for 2500 watts... just sayin

 

[Gbob2003 10+ year member]

Sundowns prices to wattage>RF prices to wattage

 

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

I can get sundowns for le cheapz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif workin on funds for an saz-3500 bn for 850. But yes you do have a point. Shtt aint le cheapz very often lool 

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I can get it for 600 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif lol

I could rationalize the 2500 for that price, but the full MSRP is ridiculous, and I'm sure if jacob catches wind of this thread he's going to come in and tell us about how quality has a price and people trying to pick up their product for cheap is ruining the market and driving their profits into the ground. But if they're not making sufficient profit off of an 800 dollar amp, they don't deserve to make one.