Is this a common practice for Midbass

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

for pure midbass that wouldn't be terrible. Off axis response is nearly identical to on axis at those frequencies. Height is a non issue running that low too. All they need to do is get the time delay right for each driver. I'd worry about vibrations though. actual stage depth might be an issue. Still not a technically terrible place for drivers that are very bandwidth limited.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Any bets on how poorly it does in two-seat scoring?

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

If for some reason they could not get a good install in/good amount of air space in the kicks... those midbass drivers on the floor like that are actually decent speaker placement.
Best Three-way installs I have ever seen with conventional drivers is mid and tweet in the kicks, and midbass drivers in the floor under the dash/firewall.... the midbass driver in an install like that, on the driver's side, for instance, would be under the pedals. maybe someone can post a pic of one of those installs, I know they are out there.

Kinda what you are talking about here.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Any bets on how poorly it does in two-seat scoring?

european leagues are all one seaters if I remember right, so yeah, technically terrible placement bandaided with time alignment, only sounds good from 1 seat.

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

If mine were like that, the drivers side would for sure be full of coffee.

 

[goodstuff 10+ year member]

If mine were like that, the drivers side would for sure be full of coffee.

x2, and various crumbs. lol.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Hmm.. with the tangband 5.25's on sale at just about $20 a piece, I might pick some up and see what I can do with em like this:up2somet:

 

[Gary S 10+ year member]

The picture xtremekustomz posted is sort of what I mean... although that looks like a mid in that pic with the phase plug.

european leagues are all one seaters if I remember right, so yeah, technically terrible placement bandaided with time alignment, only sounds good from 1 seat.

- Now that I have had time to think about it more, I retract my original statment... those midbass drivers on the floor are in poor positions... not only for two listeners, but also for one.... you guys are right, thank you for posting and setting the record straight. It's not so bad if the drivers are crossed low, but it's still bad for soundstage and imaging.

 

[genxx 10+ year member]

Only problem I see with that is if the driver side is the same then the sense of feel/touch. That mid-bass firing into you leg you would feel it allowing you to localize it. If had alot of authority it cold cuase a huge problem. Once you localize it, it would cause major problems in the front sound stage. It would pull your attention toward it.IMO

Just me .2 cents.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

that doesnt explain the tweets and midrange in the doors. cant be very imaged for SQ...

I was able to get a great sound stage and image in factory door locations in my 325i BMW. It just took some processing with a 3Sixty.2 to get it done. The setup can work quite well, just takes processing to make it work optimally.

Granted, the passenger side didn't sound nearly as good... but hey, I don't sit over there and 99% of my passengers don't understand SQ anyway //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

The picture xtremekustomz posted is sort of what I mean... although that looks like a mid in that pic with the phase plug.

It's his midbass. The drivers that he sells now have a phase plug in the middle of them. Here is a picture with the midrange out and the midbass in it's location without the grille. I'm sure that is the 3" midrange that he sells and most of his guys use.

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

that midrange is a hybrid audio l3

 

[Gary S 10+ year member]

Sundownz is right... you can get good sound from door mounts or midbass drivers in front of the seat, but only for one seat. Not for both seats at the same time.

It's his midbass. The drivers that he sells now have a phase plug in the middle of them. Here is a picture with the midrange out and the midbass in it's location without the grille. I'm sure that is the 3" midrange that he sells and most of his guys use.

- I got it now... I thought I saw a small grill in the kick panel. I would have put the tweeter in the kick also... I think he likes to put the tweeter up higher.

I have a formula for speaker placement in cars... in most cars, the best place to put mids and tweeters is about where the floor meets the kick panel. The goal is obtaining the widest placement while maintaining a phantom center image in front of both front seat listeners.

What price are his component speaker systems going for?

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

This is the last list I got from him but I think the prices have changed a little bit since December. You can view everything at: http://www.hybrid-audio.com/ Check out the frequency response of the drivers (bandwidth //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ). It's crazy.

Here's the complete Legatia breakdown in USD.

Individual Speaker Pairs:

L1: MSRP = $109.99

L3: MSRP = $269.99

L4: MSRP = $299.99

L6: MSRP = $359.99

L8: MSRP = $399.99

Individual Passive Crossover Pairs:

2x-41: MSRP = $149.99

2x-61: MSRP = $149.99

3x-631: MSRP = $179.99

3x-641: MSRP = $179.99

3x-831: MSRP = $179.99

3x-841: MSRP = $179.99

Two Way Sets Without Crossovers:

L31-2: MSRP = $359.99

L41-2: MSRP = $399.99

L61-2: MSRP = $449.99

Two Way Sets With Crossovers:

L41-2x: MSRP = $519.99

L61-2x: MSRP = $559.99

Three Way Sets Without Crossovers:

L631-3: MSRP = $719.99

L641-3: MSRP = $759.99

L831-3: MSRP = $789.99

L841-3: MSRP = $829.99

Three Way Sets With Crossovers:

L631-3x: MSRP = $879.99

L641-3x: MSRP = $919.99

L831-3x: MSRP = $949.99

L841-3x: MSRP = $989.99

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

- I got it now... I thought I saw a small grill in the kick panel. I would have put the tweeter in the kick also... I think he likes to put the tweeter up higher.

I have a formula for speaker placement in cars... in most cars' date=' the best place to put mids and tweeters is about where the floor meets the kick panel. The goal is obtaining the widest placement while maintaining a phantom center image in front of both front seat listeners.

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He runs his midrange up pretty high up in the 6-8k region if I'm not mistaken so I don't think the has a problem. His cars usually do very well. I know he's got multiple World Championships. I personally just sit in the vehicle with some tape and listen in different locations until I get the best spot LOL