Is the JL Audio ported HO box for the W6 as good as every one says it is?

[benzmansl65amg 10+ year member]

W6 is a great sub

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

You can ask any price you want, its up to the customer to decide if they're willing to pay for it. Even if they sold 20-30 units a year, they would be making more money than a company selling 3 times as many for $350 less. Plus they have less headaches and overhead (labor, warehousing)


If you're willing to wait for it. Some people don't want to wait and they'd rather buy something in person that sounds great to them.

Some people have money to spend and don't consider paying "too much" being *** *****. I've seen people pay $1500-2000 TOO MUCH for a custom computer, paint job, car repair, etc. I would have built a better computer, with a better warranty, for less money.

Than why post suggestions to subs that put out a lot more power than the original poster? Some subs sound a lot better than others that have specs that look great on paper.

I might have heard a DC, I really don't know. I've been to too many car shows and comp's to know. I know I haven't A/B'd one so I'm not going to suggest one way or another. I always tell people to let their ears decide. Ultimately brand, model, etc doesn't matter if it doesn't sound good to you. I have heard a lot of systems that people consider good SQ rigs, but I've done more with lesser known equipment. Its mostly in the tuning and enclosure design. An amplifier has more effect on sound than people think.

I lived in an area with at least 5-6 car audio shops in my area. I could get a custom designed box for around $120 out the door. Why waste my time paying some idiot on a forum when I can get better locally? Now there is only 1 car audio shop left where I live now. That's why I joined this forum. I'm also very involved in guitar and home theater setups.

Most of my customers have home audio systems that would make some of the best systems on these forums look like child's play. I'm not a millionaire yet, but some of my customers are. They have equipment I've never even heard of, from places like Italy, Germany and Japan. I don't go by brand names. I go by what sounds amazing. You would be surprised what a 1" thick birch cabinet can do for a set of $2000 drivers. I've only recently started getting active in the home entertainment market but most of my experience comes from car audio and home electronics.

Yeah, I'll take your word for it..... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nerd.gif.c6fa51ddf7ff75f1c0371fbc648f70ae.gif

I'm not even going to attempt to quote within a quote, I have to leave for work in 5 minutes. But I will say that you just dug yourself a bigger grave. You will see why in a little bit here...

And I for one wouldn't be surprised what 1" thick birch does for drivers. I'm runnin 1.5"

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Where did you source this magical 1.5" birch? Let me guess, the BAFFLE has two 3/4" sheets laminated together.....

I'm getting hot, where is my fresh grave? I need a place to lie down. I'm guessing it will be ready in about as much time as it takes one of the "custom" box builders to get done with their customer's boxes.

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

Where did you source this magical 1.5" birch? Let me guess, the BAFFLE has two 3/4" sheets laminated together.....
I'm getting hot, where is my fresh grave? I need a place to lie down. I'm guessing it will be ready in about as much time as it takes one of the "custom" box builders to get done with their customer's boxes.

I meant 1 1/2" Oak. And no, not a baffle.A cabinet. And if you think that sounds odd, don't even get me started on the cabinet I have that is 1.5" thick all around with a rear baffle sealed with 1" deep cement...

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I meant 1 1/2" Oak. And no, not a baffle.A cabinet. And if you think that sounds odd, don't even get me started on the cabinet I have that is 1.5" thick all around with a rear baffle sealed with 1" deep cement...

I bet he didn't see this coming, because I sure didn't. Cement is hardcore. I hope when I'm older I can have the money to really try and compete...and cement my doors. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

I bet he didn't see this coming, because I sure didn't. Cement is hardcore. I hope when I'm older I can have the money to really try and compete...and cement my doors. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Yeah...its not too far out there, man. I've only been into car audio for 2 years and home audio for half a year, and look how far I've come!

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

And best of all, I have barely spent a penny on anything, no joke!

 

[spltuscon 10+ year member]

Where did you source this magical 1.5" birch? Let me guess, the BAFFLE has two 3/4" sheets laminated together.....
I'm getting hot, where is my fresh grave? I need a place to lie down. I'm guessing it will be ready in about as much time as it takes one of the "custom" box builders to get done with their customer's boxes.

Not sure where you get this opinion that "custom" box builders are slow or incompetent...? I'm sure that some are, and I've seen some work that is horrible and some that's great. But I can tell you that nearly all prefabs **** and local stereo shops usually aren't much better. I have seen work come from shops that people paid big money for and both the design and quality were very lacking. Very few shops know anything at all about SPL and can't help you get truly loud (just to cite an example).

Sorry for the threadjack, I just felt like I needed to add my .02

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

And best of all, I have barely spent a penny on anything, no joke!

I just want to cement something. I have bags of it just sitting around not being used.

 

[rosshimself13 10+ year member]

i found a guy on here showed him my design, he said it looked ok he would make some tweaks and i sent him some money, drove to his house the next days and he was finished with the box, helped install all my shit and made a false floor for some batteries and the guy is 2 yrs younger than me

we took it out that day and i hit a 137 in a crew cab truck with 2 10's on about 1800w tuned to 36hz, without touching the eq... not too shabby for my first time.. and i didnt have to wait at all

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Its all good guys. Honestly, I like giving people a hard time because usually everybody learns something. I don't like the threads that turn into a bunch of name calling and bashing, so I try to keep it a civil but heated debate //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif A few years back I read somewhere that someone was filling all the doors, walls, etc on an SUV with concrete? I did some searching but couldn't find it...?

I wasn't saying all the box builders were incompetent, etc. I've just seen some designs and construction on here that were very lacking and people were charging money for them. Its a sad day when you have to contract out a box builder instead of being able to go down to your local car audio shop and keep them in business. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Suicide_Bobb, You coming to the comp in Lincoln City on the 19th? It would be cool to get as many people from the NW down here as possible.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

Its all good guys. Honestly, I like giving people a hard time because usually everybody learns something. I don't like the threads that turn into a bunch of name calling and bashing, so I try to keep it a civil but heated debate //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif A few years back I read somewhere that someone was filling all the doors, walls, etc on an SUV with concrete? I did some searching but couldn't find it...?
I wasn't saying all the box builders were incompetent, etc. I've just seen some designs and construction on here that were very lacking and people were charging money for them. Its a sad day when you have to contract out a box builder instead of being able to go down to your local car audio shop and keep them in business. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Suicide_Bobb, You coming to the comp in Lincoln City on the 19th? It would be cool to get as many people from the NW down here as possible.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif

I am, see you there!

 

[Bumpin' Goalie 10+ year member]

I have nothing against supporting local businesses //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif They need the money to stay afloat. However, being a design/build guy myself, I've noticed how half-baked some of the end results are that come from those local shops. Obviously this is a situational event. Some shops take the extra time to think twice, measure twice, etc...However, some shops are employing guys and gals that don't know anything more about car audio than "Type-R's are the best" and have a saw at their fingertips. I make a habit of going to every shop in the area and requesting something or another, asking questions, etc to test knowledge and customer service. And I've been recommended a .8cube box tuned to 70hz for a JL 10W3. Not sure if that's exactly what most people would enjoy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Now if I ever need something built due to lack of time, I design and a shop that showed competency builds.

Sorry for the rant, but I think that there are too many GENERALIZATIONS about local shops/online builders! It is all a case by case experience!

Thanks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif